Obama: "New Era of Service" 7/2/08 speech: "Civilian National Security Force" genesis

Sean Robins | July 16, 2008 | Sean Robins

[sheik yerbouty]

it will have a jackass on it instead of a swastika..

[BenLurkin]

[dixjea]

You are righ. It doesn’t look like a flub up. It looks like he has something in mind. Very Very Scary.

Another question

Is all this “National Service” to be voluntary? or Mandatory?

[proudmilitarymrs]

bttt

[seanrobins]

>>>Is all this “National Service” to be voluntary? or Mandatory?

Mandatory voluntary.

[ctdonath2]

The draft (military) is something they love to hate. They think it's something so bad that if they can force it to happen, people at large will be mortified and persuade full withdraw from whatever the draft was for in the first place. It's an anti-war tool: force enough unwilling into war, and they'll see to it the war stops. Perverse theory, but sorta understandable.

Why, then, they think a draft for peaceful social purposes will be any better - forcing the unwilling to do icky soup-kitchen trash-pickup infrastructure-building so-others-can-enjoy-the-fruits-of-your-compulsory-labors kind of work - is beyond me.

[ctdonath2]

Buried in there is a comment that 100 hours of “community service” will garner a $4000 tax credit ... so, by backdoor means, the gov’t will be paying these kids $40/hour.

[bobmbx]

A much better model of what BO proposes is much closer than Germany. Just look south, towards Venezuela and you’ll find the “Armed Forces of Cooperation”, which performs duties such as:

“Therefore, this one component fulfills the function to offer security and to defend the sovereignty of the Venezuelan national territory, as much internally as throughout its borders, working jointly with the Army, the Navy and Aviation. At the same time, it participates respectively in operative in internal security in collaboration with the state and municipal police bodies under the direction of the Ministry of the Popular Power for the Defense and the Ministry of the Popular Power of the Interior and Justice. Consequently, in case of disturbances or sackings, it acts to dissuade and to control the protests and other disorders public.

At the present time, the President of Venezuela, Hugo Chávez, has arranged for the National Guard to collaborate with the citizens in activities of cooperation, protection, security, defense and also in social programs or missions to benefit the population, according to the Constitution of 1999.”

Social programs at the point of the gun. Hmmmm......

[seanrobins]

Check out this item from today on WorldNetDaily:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69784

Part of the discussion is some of my analysis from this post on what might account for the mysterious appearance/ disappearance of the “Civilian National Security Force” language...

[flutters]

Thanks for the link. Did anyone else run this story?

[seanrobins]

I haven’t seen any, but will note it if I do.

sr

[Brad’s Gramma]

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