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To: Diogenesis
"That url is self-serving by ... Romney, and is untruthful."

The above comment is self-serving by YOU. Romney didn't wirte the article, the author was DAVID FRENCH.

Here's some of what DAVID FRENCH and the Massachusettes Legislature had to say:

"You can read the entire opinion at the Massachusetts court website, but for those who lack the time--or stomach--to read the whole thing, please pay attention to this paragraph:

We construe civil marriage to mean the voluntary union of two persons as spouses, to the exclusion of all others. This reformulation redresses the plaintiffs' constitutional injury and furthers the aim of marriage to promote stable, exclusive relationships. It advances the two legitimate State interests the department has identified: providing a stable setting for child rearing and conserving State resources. It leaves intact the Legislature's broad discretion to regulate marriage.

"What does this mean? It means that the court interpreted (that's another word for "construed") Massachusetts law to mean that two people of the same sex could marry--and that any interpretation contrary to the court's would violate the rights of homosexuals. In other words, the court did not order the legislature to do anything. Instead, it did what the constitution allows it to do--it interpreted the law. It did so in an improper, activist way that abandoned the obvious original intent of the Massachusetts constitution and the Massachusetts marriage laws, but it interpreted the law nonetheless."

"Now, take a look at the next paragraph:

In their complaint the plaintiffs request only a declaration that their exclusion and the exclusion of other qualified same-sex couples from access to civil marriage violates Massachusetts law. We declare that barring an individual from the protections, benefits, and obligations of civil marriage solely because that person would marry a person of the same sex violates the Massachusetts Constitution. We vacate the summary judgment for the department. We remand this case to the Superior Court for entry of judgment consistent with this opinion. Entry of judgment shall be stayed for 180 days to permit the Legislature to take such action as it may deem appropriate in light of this opinion.

Read it again. And again. Do you see any order directed against the legislature? No? Well, that's for a good reason. The court did not order the legislature to do anything--it merely stayed its judgement for 180 days for the legislature to take action that it deemed "appropriate." However, since the marriage laws had already been interpreted (construed) to include same-sex marriage, the legislature did not have to take any action at all for same-sex marriage to become legal. It was already legal because of the court's decision.

Frankly, it is sad that so many could be misled by something so simple--and simply wrong. When the Governor confronted the Massachusetts Supreme Court, he had two choices: (1) He could fight the decision using legal means; or (2) he could risk contempt citations and impeachment in an ineffectual, grandstanding attempt to block same-sex marriages. Rather than becoming the what the media would undoubtedly call the "George Wallace of gay marriage" and hand homosexual activists a propaganda victory to go along with their court victory, Governor Romney fought using the law and using his enormous gifts of persuasion. As a result, the same-sex marriage movement has lost public momentum, has lost court cases, and has lost at the ballot box. And we have Governor Romney and his principled, courageous, and compassionate defense of traditional marriage to thank for much of that success.

Mitt Romney did not "choose" gay marriage. At a critical moment in our nation's history, Mitt Romney did make a choice, and he chose to defend marriage in a way that can and should make all conservatives proud.

P.S. If you doubt my qualifications to read a court case, please read my bio.

42 posted on 07/16/2008 5:11:13 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (The game is over "my friends" and has been for a long time.)
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To: TAdams8591
" The court did not order the legislature to do anything--it merely stayed its judgement for 180 days for the legislature to take action that it deemed "appropriate."

Did Romney wait 180 days? Or did he Order the clerks to obey the illegal order
or 'face personal liability' or be fired"?

What Romney did was comply with his previous promise to be to the LEFT of Ted Kennedy.
And then Romney would play 'victim' (his greatest role).


46 posted on 07/16/2008 5:18:55 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: TAdams8591
Thank you for your post. It is refreshing to see a cogent, accurate analysis of the gay marriage decision by the Supreme Court in Massachussetts rather than the incessant tripe that is posted by some who have little, if any, formal education in constitutional law.
53 posted on 07/16/2008 5:44:45 PM PDT by ComeUpHigher
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To: TAdams8591
If you doubt my qualifications to read a court case, please read my bio.

I took you up on your offer and I would like to say that you and I do not agree on everything; the flat tax versus taxing consumption being an example. That said, reasonable people can disagree and I think you always conduct yourself in a way that brings credibility to this forum.

I wish the people who mis-characterize Mitt Romney's history and views could see themselves as others see them. Name calling and hostility are not acceptable behavior for anyone, but especially people who claim to be conservatives. Once again I will invoke Ronald Reagan's 11th Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Speak Ill of Another Republican.

355 posted on 07/16/2008 9:01:21 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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