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To: JasonC
In capitalism, the risk-takers take risks because of the potential gains, not because they can soak it off on others.

Capitalism where the risk-takers enjoy the gains, but The People absorb the losses is not Capitalism. It's called Fascism. And no, that's not hyperbole...it's the actual term for what you describe:

"...the State pays for the blunders of private enterprise... Profit is private and individual. Loss is public and social." --Gaetano Salvemini


No thanks. If you want to take risks and reap the rewards, be my guest--I'm all for it and I'll cheer for you, but don't come to me to cover your losses.

108 posted on 07/13/2008 8:51:37 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
They aren't my losses.

Every bank in the country invests in agency paper. Even those that do not do so directly are exposed to it at second order, because they hold claims against other institutions that invest in agency paper. You don't have any bank account, unless your bank has assets to match its liability to you. And it has no assets, unless those it holds claims against, can pay it.

The entire capital of the US banking system is a little less than $1 trillion. That supports a money supply of $7.7 trillion. Agency paper is $5.3 trillion. Freeze the latter, even if eventually most of it can be realized, and there isn't a solvent bank in the country.

The ones running that risk are not restricted to some small class of investors in this or that stock. It is everyone who trusts a bank to pay them back. When you leave money at a bank, you are taking risks for the sake of a gain, too - the gain of a useful form of money, etc. And that is the risk under discussion.

What happens to the shareholders of Fannie and Freddie is a matter of complete indifference, in public policy terms. But failure of their *debts*, failure to meet *creditor* demands on them, means the money supply is gone and the backing system is gone and everyone you know is broke.

Which is what the Treasury, Fed, president, and congress, decided over the weekend not to let happen on Monday.

If they did nothing, it would happen, by Friday or so.

GM and Ford are likely to be next, incidentally. This isn't remotely over, and it isn't remotely about gains or losses to tiny groups of shareholders.

112 posted on 07/13/2008 9:12:47 PM PDT by JasonC
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