Weak Fallujah Murder Case: Marine Badgered into Admitting Guilt During Interrogation

Defend Our Marines ^ | July 12, 2008 | Nathaniel R. Helms

[RedRover]

[RedRover]

The most recent Fallujah threads on Free Republic are HERE and HERE.

For more background on the case, go Defend Our Marines. You can visit the Sgt Weemer website at DefendingAHero.org

[tbpiper]

Prosecutors do not seek ‘justice’. They seek a ‘win’, therefore cherry picking is a perfectly good prosecutorial tool. Ask the Ramseys.

[Lancey Howard]

BUMP!

[Eagles6]

"With him at the Hell House were Sgt John Winnick, LCpl Stephen Tatum, L Cpl Justin Sharratt, Sgt Jose Nazario, and Sgt Jermaine Nelson, despised by some of their own now for being criminals when they fought for their country."

[RedRover]

These Marines have faced the same kind of harrassment—though without the media frenzy that magnified it a thousand-fold. Fortunately, the three Fallujah Marines will get their day in court. The “confessions” are all the prosecution has. The defense will easily destroy the credibility of the prosecution’s cherry-picked case.

[RedRover]

All from 3/1.

[lilycicero]

With him at the Hell House were Sgt John Winnick, LCpl Stephen Tatum, L Cpl Justin Sharratt, Sgt Jose Nazario, and Sgt Jermaine Nelson, despised by some of their own now for being criminals when they fought for their country.

Unbelievable.

[RedRover]

Just to add a plug for another website, JohnnyWinnick.com.

[jazusamo]

This only increases my disdain for the NCIS and their methods of investigation of our troops for alledged crimes while in combat.

Another well written piece by Nat.

[Eagles6]

"Unbelievable."

Yeah, it is.

[bigheadfred]

Judge: Mr. Prosecutor, you may present your case.

P-Man: Thank you your honor, I got it right here Uh Uh uh...

[RedRover]

That is most incredibly excellent, fred!

[lilycicero]

You let the cat out of the bag!

[4woodenboats]

I caught that too. It's as if everyone who lived through Hell House is being systematically hunted down.

One thing that's been bugging me is who made the decision to hace the CIA ask veterans of Iraq whether they'd witnessed an illegal killing. I figure they'd have to be pretty far up the food chain to influence the CIA.

I was doing a search for 'mark fox ncis' and stumbled across this;

After that fateful October meeting at Gitmo, Special Agent Mark Fallon of the Naval Criminal Investigative Service e-mailed a colleague, saying that what he'd heard there "could shock the conscience of any legal body" that might someday look into the Bush regime's interrogation methods. Added Fallon: "This looks like the kind of stuff Congressional hearings are made of."

At long last, the previously secret memos and e-mails detailing that October meeting and its consequences were disclosed, for the first time, at a June 17 hearing by the Senate Armed Services Committee. The hearing was chaired by Democratic Senator Carl Levin of Michigan, who asked, with some alarm, during the testimony by former Pentagon officials: "How on earth did we get to the point where a senior United States government lawyer would say that . . . torture is 'subject to perception'?"

At a liberal rag;

here

Seems like a pretty direct link between NCIS and Carl Levin/ The Senate Armed Services Committee. I wonder who SA Mark Fallon's "collegue" was?

[USNBandit]

NCIS somehow feels they don't have to follow the Constitution. This isn't some change in their tactics over a more serious case. I had a friend that was taken to a hotel room without access to counsel, without the ability to leave, and questioned for 10 hours straight over the theft of some computers. He didn't have access to the rooms the computers were locked in, but was unfortunate enough to be billeted on the same floor of the building.

That is combined with the almost nonexistent support given to commands when they actually need a criminal investigator.

[4woodenboats]

hace=have

Also, my link doesn't appear to be working. Try again;

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[bigheadfred]

Alice feels like I do.

[tbpiper]

The defense will easily destroy the credibility of the prosecution’s cherry-picked case.

I really start to wonder who's behind these bogus prosecutions (including Haditha). The military is not a monolithic organization. After all, we have the likes of Wesley Clark and John Murtha who come from apparently solid military backgrounds (although Clark is somewhat suspect). Then there are the former military people who fought in Iraq that come out and run as typical anti-war democrats. If it's from a position of having seen the ugliness of war and wanting to avoid it all costs, I can appreciated their view point while disagreeing with it. But they don't say that. They just stick to the Bush lied - people died party line. What a strange people we are.

[bigheadfred]

What a strange people we are.

Speak for yourself. I prefer 'tad unusual'... :-)