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The Nightly News, Not-For-Profit (Liberal MSM going down hard and fast)
Time/CNN ^ | 7/9/2008 | Ted Horowitz

Posted on 07/12/2008 9:40:07 PM PDT by tobyhill

The newspaper industry is in a bad spot. Actually, run a correction on that statement — newspapers are in a "time to panic" spot. The business model is collapsing, ad dollars are disappearing, newsprint prices are at a 12-year high and the Internet is just giving news away for free. On July 2, the Los Angeles Times announced it was cutting more than one-sixth of its newsroom staff; the Tampa Tribune said it would cut 20%.

Some weeks ago, Randy Michaels, COO of the Tribune newspaper group — the second largest in the nation — mused in a conference call with investors that while the company's salespeople were judged by their performance, "nobody has ever said, 'How many column inches does a journalist write?'" The problem is, productivity quotas are anathema to one of journalism's core duties, investigative reporting — an expensive enterprise that can consume months of a writer's time and often yield few results.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biasmeanslayoffs; deadtreemedia; liberalmedia; trysellingthetruth
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1 posted on 07/12/2008 9:40:07 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
investigative reporting

Seems to me that most stuff they report they make up alomg the way

2 posted on 07/12/2008 9:42:13 PM PDT by clamper1797 (GWB was shock and awe ... Nobama is shuck and jive)
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To: tobyhill

Here’s an idea - outsource investigative reporting, at least the investigation part, to REAL detectives (aka private investigators) and just have some copy editor write up the report afterwards. It’d be cheaper and simpler. Oh, and it’d be more likely to be factual than, say, the CBS “investigative journalism” that gave us the GM sidesaddle gas tank explosive urban legend.

To the Associated Press: If you’re reading this, using any part of this idea beyond “here’s an idea - outsource” will cost you $50,000 per article you use it for.


3 posted on 07/12/2008 9:44:19 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: tobyhill

I’m sure glad I got out of the newspaper biz....


4 posted on 07/12/2008 9:46:37 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: clamper1797

Todays great journalistic piece was that some guy in the Pentagon said that the US “may” speed up withdrawal from Iraq. I think people are on to this “maybe, possible, he without name, she without name” journalism.


5 posted on 07/12/2008 9:47:27 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
The difference between “un-named sources” and “invisible friends” is the credibility of the journalist.
6 posted on 07/12/2008 9:50:00 PM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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To: tobyhill

But at least they are becoming “Carbon Neutral.” That’s gotta make them “feel” good about the situation.


7 posted on 07/12/2008 9:50:34 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Spktyr

What’s so funny was that the night hat LGF produced the “Iran Missile Photoshop” story, the LATIMES printed the picture on their frontpage the next day.

They are truly dinosaurs whose time has come. They’re so big that a simple fact check escapes them (except making up anti-Bush, anti-Iraq War liberal stories).


8 posted on 07/12/2008 9:55:07 PM PDT by max americana
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To: tobyhill
Here's a refreshing perspective on the news-let's try telling the truth for a change and see if it make a difference.

Instead of the news media being an unofficial adjunct of the Democrat party they could, oh I don't know, maybe keep their warped political bias out of the news and let their readers and viewers decide what's important.

9 posted on 07/12/2008 9:55:29 PM PDT by Larry381 (That's not the flagpin I knew)
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To: Bernard
Even if these anonymous sources really exist the journalist can write whatever they claim that person said without scrutiny or challenge to the contents.
I certainly don't trust journalist or reporters to give out the truth.
Earlier this year they claimed Basrah in Iraq was beyond Iraq or US Troops ability to control yet when the battle began it was a cake walk in defeating the terrorist.
10 posted on 07/12/2008 9:57:23 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Larry381

The MSM is as dumb as some unions when it comes to the Rat Party. They will all follow the Rats over the cliff.


11 posted on 07/12/2008 10:00:33 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

Liberal derangement is so strong that these papers would prefer to go bankrupt rather than to report objectively, which would possibly renew some interest in their dying fishwraps. They can’t go belly-up fast enough for me.


12 posted on 07/12/2008 10:01:40 PM PDT by smedley64 (Dems go all-in every 4 years with a 7-2 offsuit marxist, hoping to hit the flop big just one time.)
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To: Spktyr

“CBS “investigative journalism” that gave us the GM sidesaddle gas tank explosive urban legend.”

Was that CBS or NBC?


13 posted on 07/12/2008 10:03:08 PM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: Eagles2003
I believe it was Dateline NBC.

CBS just presents forged documents.

14 posted on 07/12/2008 10:07:59 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Eagles2003

It *was* NBC, I type corrected.

It’s so easy to get all the lying journalist orgs confused.


15 posted on 07/12/2008 10:08:21 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: swatbuznik
I’m sure glad I got out of the newspaper biz....

Me too. At 14 I figured out there was no future in delivering newspapers at 4:00 AM for sub-minimum wage and then trying to get back to sleep before getting up for school.

16 posted on 07/12/2008 11:05:21 PM PDT by ME-262 (Nancy Pelosi is known to the state of CA to render Viagra ineffective causing reproductive harm.)
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To: tobyhill
It has always been my self thought out opinion backed up only by common sense with no deep philosophical searches or over riding poll numbers that most newspaper readers are conservative.

Most liberals either do not or can not read.

If they did or could read they probably would buy such news worthy magazines as People, Rolling Stoned, National Inquirer, Star or the Sun.

Hard news print with positive articles about Americas traditions or its military just does not flip the switch of your average Going Green liberal newspaper executive.

You see the airhead smug hip and hop crowd believes conservative news is something the establishment majority might use to make right wing decisions while liberals base their news on fake but accurate whatever feels good today propaganda.

Liberal Newspapers and Conservative Customers is an Oxymoron by a power to the Nth degree.

Commonsense should tell all in the newsprint business that if 85% of their customers believe in Americas values as the greatest country then stories constantly degrading them and Americas traditions would cause anyone to turn away in droves to news sources they want to hear and read.

Murdoch stumbled on to that fact back in the 90’s with Fox news but smug newsprint and media executives ignored the proverbial writing on on the wall.

Folks like the prickly idiots over at PMSNBC, CBS, ABC New York Times, L.A. Times and others will one day be only a quick mention in history books followed by and asterisk * (done in by Liberalism and media executives stupidity).

The truth is America needs a strong UNBIASED news media but over the past fifty years that concept has completely gone over the heads of the radical left wing universities that produce most of the reporters for this failing industry.

News paper editors are like Ruby in that old song by Kenny Rogers “Ruby Don't Take Your Love To Town” when they allow fabricated and constant negative left wing news to be printed, a person just wants to get their gun like Kenny says and shoot ole Ruby down.

17 posted on 07/12/2008 11:11:07 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: OKIEDOC

I am about to add to their misery in my own small way. I received a solicitation for a subscription from the NYT this week complete with postage paid return envelope.

I have written them a letter explaining why I would never purchase their left wing traitorous tripe and will send it to them using their prepaid postage, taped to a house brick.

I’m just wondering about copying the envelope and repeating the exercise multiple times, or maybe that would be fraudulent.


18 posted on 07/13/2008 1:07:00 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: tobyhill

If they spent time reporting the news, rather than spending time creating or becoming the news, they wouldn’t find themselves in this fiasco they find themselves in.


19 posted on 07/13/2008 2:18:44 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Wil H

Whenever I get a Business Reply envelope from a left-wing organization I always mail it back with an appropriate comment inside..not only does it cost them money but it helps out my employer, the US Postal Service.


20 posted on 07/13/2008 4:56:44 AM PDT by rman04554
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