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The two faces of the AWG (global warming) crowd, The tale of Desert Rock, the Navajos and the UN
Flopping Aces ^ | 07-12-08 | Mataharley

Posted on 07/12/2008 10:36:37 AM PDT by Starman417

Sometimes when you're sifting thru general news, you run across a couple of items with 6 degrees of separation that truly make you go "huh??". Such is the case in the legal battles of the proposed hybrid dry cooled coal-fired Desert Rock plant in New Mexico.

Early this year, the Navajo Nation and Sithe Global Power filed a lawsuit against the EPA for delays in issuing an air quality permit by the July 31st deadline for the proposed plant. New Mexico's AG said it couldn't be done because it would be in violation of the Endangered Species Act.

Desert Rock spokesman Frank Maisano said the lawsuit was filed because the EPA broke the law by not deciding on the permit within the required time. By law, the EPA must make a decision within 12 months of receiving a completed application. Desert Rock's application was deemed complete in May 2004.

"That's easy math - it's more than three years overdue at this point," Maisano said.

The EPA agreed to the July 31 deadline to decide on the permit as part of a settlement of the lawsuit, but the state entities decided to intervene because they believe the permit cannot be acted upon until other environmental reviews are completed.

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In a news release, Attorney General Gary King said, "This permitting process is truly putting the cart before the horse. We believe there are a number of regulatory issues that need to be addressed by the EPA before it can make a decision on this permit."

The issues King's office raised include the plant's possible effects on fish and wildlife, carbon-dioxide pollution and compliance with federal standards for ozone pollution.

Maisana, the Desert Rock representative believes they are missing the point of the lawsuit. Instead he accuses them of the delays simply because they are against the construction of the plant because it's coal and not more expensive alternative energy... despite the advanced technology proposed.

"It's not about the substance of the permit; it's about why it's taking so long for them to respond to it. They're trying to delay this project again, and the only reason they're doing that is because they're against it. The only thing a delay does is hurt the Navajo nation. Shame on the New Mexico government for imposing its will on Navajo sovereignty."

Now the Sierra Club, Natural Resources Defense Council, San Juan Citizens Alliance and Diné Care (a group founded by some of the Navajo tribal members opposed to the power plant) make up an environmental coalition opposed to the project, and are prepared to file a motion to dismiss the lawsuit.

As if on cue, and adding fuel to the coal fire, Gov. Bill Richardson sent a letter on June 19th from his gubenatorial office, accusing the EPA of "fast tracking" the process under pressure from Desert Rock. That is, if you can call four years total, from application to today, "fast tracking".

In July of 2007, the NM Governor had this to say on his Governor's Blog".

I am gravely concerned about the potential environmental impacts of the proposed Desert Rock Energy Facility. I firmly believe, as currently proposed, the Desert Rock Energy Facility would be a step in the wrong direction.

I received the results of a scientific review done by the New Mexico Environment Department of the draft Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) on the Desert Rock Energy Facility. The EIS fails to adequately address a number of the State’s serious concerns. As planned, this new facility will adversely impact air quality, exacerbate existing environment problems, and negatively impact scarce surface and ground water resources. Because Desert Rock has potential statewide impacts, I called for additional hearings on the draft EIS to be held in Albuquerque and Santa Fe. Per my direction, the New Mexico Environment Department has submitted tough comments to the Bureau of Indian Affairs outlining these serious concerns.

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I hope that the Navajo Nation considers these important concerns of the State and strives to address them. I respect the sovereignty of the Navajo Nation and the rights of tribal governments to determine their economic futures and to pursue positive change within their communities. I understand the dire economic conditions and high unemployment rates on the reservation and respect the Navajo leadership’s courage and commitment to bettering the lives of its citizens. While each sovereign may disagree or have concern regarding the other’s action, it should not pose a barrier to communicating and discussing those concerns on a government-to-government basis.

Oddly enough, it was just one month later that year when then candidate Bill Richardson went on TV to tout his support for carbon clean coal.

Huh? Perhaps he meant to say he's for carbon clean coal, but not in *his* backyard...

But, this is only more substantive proof of how the political powers never hesitate to apply intimidation and pressure when it comes to AWG. It was only last fall when the Kansas Dept of Health and Environment denied a license to twin fired coal generators based on the supposed consensus on AWG. Attempts at providing affordable energy is being thwarted at not only federal, but state levels with disturbing regularity.

Now I told you that story so I could tell you *this* story....

It appears the UN has no problems subsidizing new coal fired plants in India and China as part of their pollution cutting projects in the "developing" world.... much to the chagrin of the enviros.

Note: Linked thru digg.. otherwise you'd have to subscribe to read the article in full on WSJ. Just click on the headline.

A United Nations program designed to combat global warming has started doing something no one expected: It is subsidizing fossil-fuel power plants that spew millions of tons of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere annually.

In the past year or so, 13 big plants in India and China that burn natural gas have won the U.N.'s blessing as aids in the fight against climate change. As a result, owners of the plants earn millions of dollars a year from a U.N. program intended to spur construction of solar panels, wind turbines and other renewable-energy projects.

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The U.N. is now venturing further onto controversial turf. In recent months it has opened the door to subsidizing new coal-burning plants. Advocates argue that modern, cleaner-burning fossil-fuel technology is expensive, and without help paying for it, owners would build old-style plants that pollute more.

U.N. officials strongly defend their approach. For more than a year, they have been taking a harder line in judging proposed emission-cutting projects of all stripes, they point out. And since the world is widely expected to continue to get most of its energy from fossil fuels for decades, U.N. officials say it's entirely appropriate for the program to subsidize plants that burn that fuel more cleanly.

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Critics say the U.N. program is straying from its purpose of promoting renewable-energy projects. "Coal is, like, climate enemy No. 1," says Michael Wara, a Stanford University lecturer who has published several papers criticizing the U.N. program. For every unit of power it produces, burning coal generates more greenhouse gas than burning natural gas.

uh... evidently, someone forgot to alert the NM Governor of the UN's dual face on AWG and fossil fuel energy...

What's particularly heinous about the UN subsidies is that the plants would have gone ahead without the UN funds anyway, and that this money depletes funds that would actually be used for their AWG alternative energy pet projects. Instead, they justify the aid because "the world is widely expected to continue to get most of its energy from fossil fuels for decades...".

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; coal; energy; environment; navajos; un; warming

1 posted on 07/12/2008 10:36:39 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417; Entrepreneur; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 07/12/2008 10:40:42 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: Starman417
Our energy problems are not about energy. We have more than enough oil,natural gas and coal for our needs and the technology to produce it. We have a government that has consistently undermined the ability of the US to produce energy and electricity. Unfortunately, most people don't understand this.
3 posted on 07/12/2008 10:56:34 AM PDT by detective
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To: steelyourfaith; xcamel
An Atlanta (municipal traffic judge) ruled against an Georgia new power plant - Because CO2 is a pollutant.

Exactly as the enviro’s intend. Regardless of the facts.

4 posted on 07/12/2008 11:02:42 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Starman417
I'm have ceased to be outraged at the blatant hypocrisy of the left and their "CLIMATE WARRIORS"

Any lie told often enough by their press co-conspirators, becomes fact.

Richardson was the subject of a nailbiting conversation earlier today with a fellow ex-NM resident like me. He is roundly thought of as a KING POS by anybody with half a brain in NM.

5 posted on 07/12/2008 11:02:49 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Starman417
The UN and the rest of the enviro-weenies have bought into so much Junk science on this they do not know what is true and what is not...

Richardson is a prime example... in the snippet of his blog that was cited in the article.... stating it was a step in the wrong direction.... Typical leftist mantra.... he eschews the needs of some of his people to ensure that he does not piss off his elitist buddies or jeopardize his chance to get back to Washington if the Dems win....

The Democrat/eviro-weenie cabal needs to go already....

6 posted on 07/12/2008 11:33:40 AM PDT by Americanwolf (Don't Think a cop will help? Try calling a crack head next time......!! Thanks Thorin!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
An Atlanta (municipal traffic judge) ruled against an Georgia new power plant - Because CO2 is a pollutant.

We are heading for an energy meltdown. Say goodbye to air conditioning and reliable power. These decisions will bite hard in 10 years. The public is complacent because there is no crisis now. The crisis is coming soon enough if the left is not stopped. Because of the nature of the environmental laws, the left has the upper hand. Between government agencies, state governments, local governments, and third party lawsuits, the power to obstruct is almost overwhelming. The rats only want to build costly and unreliable renewable plants. Even these plants are being contested.

7 posted on 07/12/2008 11:55:38 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: Starman417

bookmark for future reading


8 posted on 07/12/2008 1:20:20 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: Starman417
And we can't build clean coal fired plants at home because it would worsen "global warming." Meanwhile the rest of the world is building them and is laughing at our stupidity in refusing to do all we can to attain energy independence.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 07/12/2008 1:21:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: detective
I had to get older and wiser ... and much more pi$$ed off to see that our government is chock full of imbeds.

I always thought it was just the DMV and SS that had orangatans for emplyees ... but all you have to do is look around ... You can be as weird as you want ... just as long as you do what you're told and don't think.

10 posted on 07/12/2008 2:31:56 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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11 posted on 07/12/2008 5:18:08 PM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
An Atlanta (municipal traffic judge) ruled against an Georgia new power plant - Because CO2 is a pollutant.

They are doing to coal what they already did to nuclear power.

The left is despicable.

12 posted on 07/13/2008 7:32:36 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: businessprofessor
The rats only want to build costly and unreliable renewable plants. Even these plants are being contested.

Demonstrating just how stupid the left is.

I truly think they have a mental disease.

13 posted on 07/13/2008 7:44:38 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: SteamShovel
I truly think they have a mental disease.

I forgot to add that we are allowing these leftist lunatics drag society down, back into the chaos of the dark ages.

14 posted on 07/13/2008 7:47:54 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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