Posted on 07/12/2008 10:17:41 AM PDT by MindBender26
Disqualifying Obama from Presidency.
Many here (and in Kook World) think we can disqualify Obama for the presidency with a claim that he not a natural born citizen of the U.S.
Here’s how we can do it!
First, Obama has no responsibility to “prove” he is a citizen. If we want to disqualify him, we would have to bring civil suit asking for a declaratory judgment that he does not meet the constitutional requirements and therefore must be disqualified.
We have a few problems here. USC Title 8 provides many other ways than being born within the bounds of the 50 states to be considered a “natural born” citizen. He qualifies under at least two of them. His mother was a citizen and had lived in the US for at least 5 years, for example.
But, of course, we can ignore the law and proceed. (That’s what we lawyers often do!)
Here’s what we will do.
We will gather a group of plaintiffs. We need at least 40 to ensure we do not get summarily dismissed on “standing.” We need a few members of the military, some military parents, a few government employees, a few regular voters, a few SS recipients, etc. We need them to live in the Federal District of Northern Virginia, because we want to file our case in that district and get on the Rocket Docket.
We also want a like group in DC in because the other side will quickly move to move the case there, and we must be ready.
We will need lead counsel (me), at least a dozen other attorneys, at least 10 paralegals, a few secretaries, phone answerers, offices, computers, etc. We won’t need much field investigation, but our lawyers will have to be top notch. We will need a few former federal court judges, a few former clerks for USSC Associate Justices, or perhaps even former clerks for the CJ.
Since we are not asking for a money judgment, we will need all our money up front. This case will take at least 4 years at trial phase and 2-3 years on appeal. If it is kicked back on appeal, add another 3-6 years, and then add another 2-3 years just for delays.
My fees will be based on a 2500 hour year, as will be all others. I’ll take $450 an hour, but the real heavy hitters will demand (and get) $1000 an hour. That’s $2,500,000 for each of 12 lawyers each year.. plus about a million a year for me. That could go to $250 million plus the paralegals, expenses, etc. We’ll take a retainer of only $200 million to get it started… but we may need more…. lots more.
We’ll probably lose, because no court is going to disqualify a popularly elected presidential candidate, and we are probably wrong on law, but what the heck, it’s only money… your money that is.
Regarding time, we’ll work as fast as we can, but you know the courts, and the other side will have some great talent on their side.
As I said, we’ll probably lose, and I’m sure (but can’t guarantee) we will get you a decision in time for the 5th anniversary of the dedication of the Obama Presidential Library. You see, he got elected because we focused on this BS, and not convincing the voters about why he was such a danger to the country.
Please make your $200 million retainer check out to my escrow account…. and we’ll send you an update every month… or every year if we are delayed that long!!!
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Really? I always thought there were specific age and citizenship requirements that had to be met for various federal offices, of which President is one. What I don't know is whose responsibility it is to enforce those rules.
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The burden of proof would be on us, since we would want the courts to act to disqualify him.
;-)
Why don’t we just require he show us his real certified and verified birth certificate? Wasn’t a doctor or nurse present when he was born? :)
The check’s in the mail. ;)
>>>> I worry more about him spending his formative years in a Muslim country!
I agree completely. His formative years in a Muslim school, with a parent who obviously hated the U.S.
My man!
>>> Why don’t we just require.
Other than as plaintiffs in court, there is no legal “we.”
Over reaching. Simply challenge Obama’s inclusion on the ballot fo individual states. Challenging ballot access is common and can be handled at the local level, state by state. This gives us 50 bites at the apple. As soon as one State Election COmmission questions his eligibility, this will become a headline issue. Look up ballot access rules on your local state election commission web page which should also outline challenges and appeals.
I guess I don’t understand why a law suit is necessary when the Constitution states the requirements for running for office. Why isn’t the burden of proof on Obama to confirm he fulfills the requirements? That would mean providing a CLB, which it’s my understanding he has not done. I just retired and I had to provide a CLB to get SS benefits, but I can run for President and not have to prove my age or citizenship even though the Constitution says otherwise? Even more important, why doesn’t Obama himself (and not his campaign workers) come forward and supply the CLB?
I'm sure there were/was.
However, what is even more curious (I muse rhetorically) is why is it that whenever it is a lib/socialist/DemoRat involved, there are NEVER any leakers of information/documentation to the press or to others?
I'm certain that there are several people (unless B.O. has pulled some strings and gotten his Birth Certificate locked up in a safe somewhere in Honolulu, which is always a possibility) who would have access to this document and if this was a Republican/Conservative, a copy would have been spirited out of the clerks office many moons ago and made its way to the public.
Just like there must have been many people who had access to John "The Snake" Kerry's military record and yet, no one ever leaked any of the relevant documents (like discharge papers, citations, etc.) for this traitorous rat bastard either.
Just a fact of life I guess?
I just want you to know that I’ve been turned down as a pro bono client by fancier firms than yours.
Whoever your firm may be.
;-)
On a serious note, here is a thread about the law at the time of Bambi’s birth.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2040753/posts
If I understand this correctly, in the event of a birth outside the U.S., the issue would be that Ann Dunham had not lived in the U.S. for five years after the age of 16 because she was only 18 when he was born.
The technicalities here are best taken up with someone who argues the laws of man for a living. I deal with an entirely different set of laws.
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