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1 posted on 07/11/2008 8:00:50 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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“McCain Proves Amnesty is Political Suicide for the GOP”

Like that will stop him.

2 posted on 07/11/2008 8:02:55 PM PDT by Ratblaster ("White folks greed runs a world in need" B Hussein Obama The Muslim Magic Negro)
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3 posted on 07/11/2008 8:07:38 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Off balance sheet liabilities...they're not just for Enron anymore!)
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But but but but amnesty is “moderate”. Anything less makes us appear “extremist” and “single issue”. You IDIOT! RINO’s are DOOMED! GOD HELP US!


4 posted on 07/11/2008 8:16:56 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" white guy)
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5 posted on 07/11/2008 8:21:02 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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they certainly wouldn't be setting up a situation where the GOP could be demographically overwhelmed to such an extent via illegal immigration that we'd be forced to have a Democrat-lite agenda to keep ourselves from becoming a permanent minority party.

That's the position the GOP believes we are already in and that's what they offer, McCain and Democrat lite. With 20+ million new, poor, uneducated, government dependent, Democrat voters, the Republican party, at least as far as national elections go, will functionally cease to exist.

6 posted on 07/11/2008 8:25:01 PM PDT by Prokopton
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There's a ridiculous myth that RINOs in DC have been spinning about illegal immigration and it goes something like this: Hispanics vote almost entirely based on the illegal immigration issue and if Republicans deliver an amnesty, Hispanics will be so grateful that the percentage of them voting Republican will go from roughly 30% up to 50+%.

Name one politician, RINO or otherwise, that has alluded anything resembling that statement.

8 posted on 07/11/2008 8:31:29 PM PDT by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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“There’s a ridiculous myth that RINOs in DC have been spinning about illegal immigration and it goes something like this: “

Yeah, and Jorge and Carlos and Juan’s believing and pushing that ridiculous myth have done tremendous damage to the Republican party, and they’re still at it.

Do any of these clowns ever ask themselves how the party went from perhaps its strongest position ever after the November, 2004 elections, to the weak state of the present? This stupid and unnecessary internal battle over amnesty is probably the biggest reason for that precipitous loss of power, but not the only one.


11 posted on 07/11/2008 9:30:10 PM PDT by Will88
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Suicide for the GOP??!! How about SUICIDE FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.


12 posted on 07/11/2008 9:31:52 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (No Matter HOW Liberal/Socialist Scarface's WHITE HOUSE Becomes There Won't Be A Single "FREEP" Of It)
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This is a question for any mugwhore out there; Name me a nation in South or Central America that does not routinely elect communists. That being commonly known, how in bloody hell could anyone with two brain cells to rub together buy the BS that if the GOP ponies up amnesty, they have their own new slaves on their plantation? These illegals would just keep voting for the same crapweasles that they allowed to ruin the latrines formerly known as nations where they slithered north from.


15 posted on 07/11/2008 10:01:43 PM PDT by Grunthor (Mccain praised pro-illegal protests saying that they could force the laws to be liberalized)
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I agree. I have nothing against immigration, but in this post 9/11 world...if not for the necessity of law...it must be done in an organized manner. We must have order and a yearly quota. Overcrowded schools, hospitals and states going bankrupt, and rising crime are simply a disservice to every legal American. We must stand firm against amnesty. Photobucket
16 posted on 07/11/2008 10:49:14 PM PDT by xuberalles (The Best Anti-Liberal Novelties On The Net! http://www.cafepress.com/titillatingtees)
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No Republican is more closely associated with amnesty than John McCain. He was so heavily tied to the comprehensive immigration bill that was stopped in the Senate that many people called it the McCain/Kennedy bill.

Oh come on now. The bill was NOT AMNESTY!

(1)The illegal aliens have to pay a huge fine, and…

(2) They have to learn English.

Oh, wait. They only have to pay a teensy fine, but they still have to learn English.

Oops, they only have to sign up to take English, there is no exam.

Okay, the McCain/Kennedy bill was AMNESTY.

If Obama wasn't such an America-hating activist wanting to "change" my country into a collectivist Utopia, I would sit this election out.

17 posted on 07/11/2008 11:35:41 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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18 posted on 07/11/2008 11:37:26 PM PDT by gubamyster
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Hispanics vote almost entirely based on the illegal immigration issue and if Republicans deliver an amnesty, Hispanics will be so grateful. . . .

Excellent point. I've asked here literally for years, Are these Republicans, et al saying that Hispanics are inveterate law breakers? They cannot help it. It's what they do? Is that what McCain, et al are saying?

More BS from the latest McCain ad. This, as of now has dissuaded me from voting for president this year period!

McCain: "go to the Vietnam War Memorial and look at the names engraved in black granite"

Hispanics have a history of proud and heroic service to America. I know that! It was that way long before the war in Viet Nam!

What angered me was his IMO cheap, insulting attempt to equate ILLEGAL ALIENS (including CRIMINALS AND ALL) with immigrants who respected our Republic, served our Republic and deserve our respect and welcome even without that extra service.

I am personally sick of JERKS who do not have the courtesy to acknowledge that it's ILLEGAL ALIENS! Immigrants and legal residents have nothing to do with it!

If the jerks like McCain who insult us would stop it I personally could relax a bit. (Probably vote for the guy.) Illegal aliens who have attempted to assimilate and have taken steps to become legal can easily be welcomed also, IMO.

21 posted on 07/12/2008 1:08:37 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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It was political suicide in 2006 when Bush, in a critical election year, wouldn’t shut up about “comprehensive immigration reform”, tried to convince us it wasn’t amnesty and lied when he said, “In order to have border security, we MUST have comprehensive immigration reform”.

As a result, we lost both the House and the Senate and to this day, stand to lose the WOT in our own backyards because he has “sold his soul” to the CFR/OBL and REFUSES to effectively secure the border... so that the NAU agenda moves forward.


22 posted on 07/12/2008 5:59:41 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Don't blame me.....I support DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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“So, even if we allow 12-20 million mostly uneducated, mostly Hispanic illegal aliens from socialist countries to become Americans and that leads to another 30-40 million (or more) of their relatives becoming U.S. citizens through chain migration, it’ll still be a net gain for the GOP because they’ll be voting majority Republican.”

IMO, the bi-partisan globalist agenda for the creation of the North American Union has become top priority and we may soon see, much to the surprise of (too) many, a very public and rapid rise in support for it from both parties as something to be used to cure all that ails this country, from partisan politics to the economy.


23 posted on 07/12/2008 6:10:45 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (Don't blame me.....I support DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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McCain & Bush want to destroy the conservative wing of the GOP. Look at their behavior. They only show true anger when they are fighting the conservatives in their own party. Remember Bush accusing opponents of the Harriet Miers nomination of sexism? Remember how he made Tom Tancredo persona non grata at the White House? Recall McCain's red-faced tirades against alleged “bigots” and his rage over the defeat of amnesty?

They never show that kind of passion against the left. Ted Kennedy can call Bush every name in the book and still get invited to the White House and honored with an award. The left can attack Bush or McCain 24/7, and spread outright lies about them, and at most they'll express a bit of regret that their rivals are being a little rowdy. “Golly, gee, I regard Senator Harkin as a friend and I'm sure that once the heat of the moment dies down we'll be able to work together on the issues where we agree.”

Given the choice between obliterating the left wing of the ‘Rat party, and the conservative wing of their own party, does anyone seriously believe Bush & McCain wouldn't choose the latter without a moment's hesitation?

25 posted on 07/12/2008 7:07:17 AM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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Odd how these sap-happy invaders segued from a bunch of tabasco-swilling, drug-running lettuce pickers violating US borders to seek a "better life"...........into a virulent, evil cadre of American-haters, bent on building Third World hellholes on US soil. Decimating the American way of life seems to be their chief goal.

LA RAZA ANNOUNCES ----WE HATE AMERICA AND AMERICANS "We don't want to drink from a White water fountain, we have our own wells and our natural reservoirs and our way of collecting rain in our aqueducts. . . The White way, the American way, the neoliberal, capitalist way of life will eventually lead to our own destruction." Excerpted from Michele Malkin, 15 Things you should know about "The Race." FR POSTED http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2042782/posts?page=1

Both John McCain and Barack Obama will address the National Council of La Raza (The Race) annual convention in San Diego, this Sunday and Monday.

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Keep in mind that the US Govt (that's US taxpayers) funds La Raza.

April 23, 2007 - IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Sponsor: Rep Hinojosa, Ruben [TX-15] COSPONSOR Rep Renzi, Rick [AZ-1]
To authorize appropriations for assistance for the National Council of La Raza and the Raza Development Fund.
(b) Authorization of Appropriations- There is authorized to be appropriated for grants under this section—
(1) $5,000,000 for fiscal year 2008; and
(2) $10,000,000 for each fiscal year thereafter.
SOURCE http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=25447

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La Raza is also finacially supported by many corporations and tax-exempt foundations (listed on the Discover the Networks.org). Among them:

LA RAZA BACKERS American Express Foundation, AT&T Foundation, Carnegie Corporation of New York, the Fannie Mae Foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, W. K. Kellogg Foundation, John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, David and Lucile Packard Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation and Verizon Foundation.

NOTE WELL Between 2001 and 2003, the Ford Foundation gave La Raza about $9.83 million, with one grant alone totaling $8.05 million and has also assisted invaders to setup legal groups that are suing Americans.

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Raul Yzaguirre-----Smeared pro-English activists.

National Council of La Raza Headquarters
Raul Yzaguirre Building
Washington, DC 20036

Raul Yzaguirre is/was on Hillary Clinton's staff as her Hispanic advisor.

28 posted on 07/12/2008 7:23:25 AM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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“Laugh if you want..”

Thanks!;^)


30 posted on 07/12/2008 7:50:17 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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33 posted on 07/12/2008 9:22:57 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (I would rather be water-boarded than vote for John McCain......)
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