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To: Doctor Raoul

Smells like BS — under present law there is no requirement for a warrant or probable cause or anything of the sort to wiretap Iraqis. I think someone’s confused here.


33 posted on 07/11/2008 9:14:43 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

“Smells like BS — under present law there is no requirement for a warrant or probable cause or anything of the sort to wiretap Iraqis. I think someone’s confused here.”

My understanding is that they can get a warrant after the fact if they need to act immediately. If somebody thought they needed a warrant then they didn’t understand the law. FISA has always allowed for this.


46 posted on 07/11/2008 9:35:43 AM PDT by cw35
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To: Alter Kaker; Raycpa; cw35
It's right in the article. Let me repeat it, since a number of people seems to have missed this key part:

The FISA law applies even to a cellphone conversation between two people in Iraq, because those communications zip along wires through U.S. hubs, which is where the taps are typically applied. "

48 posted on 07/11/2008 9:40:27 AM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Alter Kaker

“I think someone’s confused here.”

Someone is definitely confused and it’s you. Read the rest of the posts and you may understand what is going on.


93 posted on 07/11/2008 11:33:48 AM PDT by detective
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To: Alter Kaker
Smells like BS — under present law there is no requirement for a warrant or probable cause or anything of the sort to wiretap Iraqis. I think someone’s confused here.

If they are in Iraq or other Turd World location, or anywhere but the US... well maybe. To tap their email, which might go through US providers or servers, that might be a horse of a different color, to the lawyers at least.

124 posted on 07/11/2008 12:40:38 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Alter Kaker
searchers in Iraq waited as U.S. lawyers discussed legal issues and hammered out the "probable cause" necessary for the attorney general to grant such "emergency" permission.

This is not a problem with the law. This whoe argument is by, about and for DOJ attorneys. Once again, this is on this administration. I wish it were not so, but this is so typical of the second raters Bush has put in as agency heads and the third and fourth raters that they have promoted through the bureaucracy.

133 posted on 07/11/2008 2:43:16 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Alter Kaker
Smells like BS — under present law there is no requirement for a warrant or probable cause or anything of the sort to wiretap Iraqis.

You're right. The part where the author says, "The FISA law applies even to a cellphone conversation between two people in Iraq, because those communications zip along wires through U.S. hubs, which is where the taps are typically applied," isn't the least bit true.

139 posted on 07/11/2008 7:28:42 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Alter Kaker

Iraq is foreign. Therefore it is foreign intelligence, and under the rhelm of the US Military and the CIA. They don’t need approval to wiretap overseas, they can and should just do it in this case, to hell with what some legal weenie says.


177 posted on 07/13/2008 5:54:06 PM PDT by Thunder90
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