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To: liberallarry

Let’s just say I consider them, charitably, about as able to make decisions for others as a... zuchini.

This is damn well why gov’t, and people like this, SHOULD NOT have the power to make decisions for me and my family.

Considering that you ARE a lib, you probably believe that I should just submit my family to folks like these “greater wisdom”.


133 posted on 07/14/2008 7:02:49 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB
Please understand I can see the merits of your argument but there always has been and always will be tension between the rights of the individual and the rights of his government and society.

The subject of this thread is the teaching of evolution. It's become a problem because its an area where science calls into question some basic religious dogma. You want to discard the science on the grounds that you have the right to teach your kids whatever you wish (spare me the fig leaves, obfuscation, and legal mumbo-jumbo).

Lets say I agree with that. Where does society draw the line? If I subscribe to a religion which forbids the teaching of reading, language, mathematics, English do I have the right to ask the schools not to teach them? What about laws? Do I have the right to disobey them if my religion or culture are in conflict? We've already been through that with the Mormons and polygamy. The issue was settled by force. Ditto slavery and the South.

Basically, what you're demanding is priority for your religious beliefs. That can't be allowed in a pluralistic society like ours. Evolutionary science is just like any other part of science, its our best estimate of the workings of nature. Our best, not our final word, and certainly not nature itself. It's in the best interest of your kids, our kids, all kids to understand science, the scientific methods, the latest scientific findings. You'll have to adjust your religious beliefs to that reality.

134 posted on 07/15/2008 4:31:27 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: MrB
Considering that you ARE a lib, you probably believe that I should just submit my family to folks like these “greater wisdom”.

"Folks like these?" What does that mean? These folks were elected by the people according to the rules of the game. Their actions are governed by those rules as interpreted by others folks (judges) who obtained their positions in a similar way.

Do you think you have the right to disobey anytime you disagree with them? Or dislike them? I don't. We have police and armies to deal with such disobedience.

You don't find fault with the system when those in power do things your way, do you? In fact, you extol it as the best system in the world.

Disgusting.

135 posted on 07/15/2008 9:47:50 AM PDT by liberallarry
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