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McCain Rips Gramm [Exile Him to Belarus???]
MSNBC First Read ^ | 2008-07-10 | Domenico Montanaro

Posted on 07/10/2008 12:54:41 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

McCain slammed economic adviser Phil Gramm for his “mental recession” and “nation of whiners” comment. He said he didn’t agree with him and even proposed a position in a McCain administration -- ambassador to Belarus, “though I’m not sure the citizens of Minsk would welcome that,” McCain said.

“I don’t agree with Sen. Gramm,” McCain said at a news conference this afternoon. “I believe that the person here in Michigan who just lost their job, isn’t suffering from a ‘mental recession.’ The mother here who is trying to get enough money to feed her children, isn’t ‘whining.’”

“Phil Gramm doesn’t speak for me, I speak for me. I strongly disagree,” McCain continued, speaking of the man who some speculated could be Treasury Secretary in a McCain administration.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2008; anationofwhiners; election; electionpresident; elections; gramm; johnmccain; juanmccain; koolaid; mccain; mccainlist; philgramm; rino; rinoalert; rinofight; rinos
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To: rockinqsranch

McCain does not want to be POTUS, that is unless he can run on the Democrat ticket. The fix IS in. This really proves it.

It is us & them.


41 posted on 07/10/2008 1:47:47 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Gramm’s statement was stupid. He’s already been a thorn in the campaign, because of his work to pass the Enron loophole, which is being used to cloud up what should be an easy path to drilling.

Does Gramm really believe that nobody’s house has dropped in value, that the stock market is NOT down 20%, that gasoline does NOT cost over twice what it did a couple of years ago, that heating oil is NOT through the roof, that our food costs aren’t soaring, or that a million more people are out of work?

We are not in a recession. But the economy isn’t hunky-dory either, and Gramm’s comments that we are whining did a disservice to the candidate he is claiming to support, as well as showing a callous indifference to the many people who HAVE suffered over the past two years of Democrat rule.

Which of course is the reason Gramm should be booted now — while the official message is that the Democrats have screwed things up and made everything worse, it doesn’t help to have an advisor saying that everything is great and the Democrats haven’t messed things up at all.


42 posted on 07/10/2008 1:53:37 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Darren McCarty

There is not a recession. Words have meanings, and if you redefine recession to be “I’m unhappy”, then there is no word to describe a real recession.

The economy doesn’t suck. Here in Tucson, unemployment has just edged up to 4%. Housing prices are about what they were 3 years ago. You can rent an 800 sq ft apartment for $650. Gas is going up - no shock there, since we’ve restricted production for 30 years. Taxes do not need to increase - try voting republican, if you can find a real one.

McCain is pandering to people like you, who care more about someone feeling your pain than solutions. It doesn’t help.


43 posted on 07/10/2008 1:55:32 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Old, pale and stale - McCain in 2008! but we're only one vote away from losing the 2nd amendment...)
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To: horse_doc

what a joke of a candidate MC cain is. . I just can’t believe how badly this is going. horrible, McPainful.. is this the same guy who stood up to torture for 5 years? sheesh, what has happened to him? .. in fact I’m surprised he didn’t issue a formal apology for the Graham statement. “my friends, I know you are hurting”, etc..

I through with it.. we will lose in November because McCain didn’t bother to sit down and watch a few speeches from the gipper. ( it might have reminded about the proper care and feeding of a liberal nation ).. you lead them... you tell them to quit whining.. that we are going to be just fine... that we will deal with it... that we will drill drill drill..

uggh... I’ve had it with this guy. it’s completely hopeless.


44 posted on 07/10/2008 2:00:11 PM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Price increases for gas and food are not a recession.

Home prices falling from stratospheric to merely ridiculous is not a recession. It's a correction, and one that was badly needed.

Other than those two things, there really isn't much wrong with this economy.

45 posted on 07/10/2008 2:01:09 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Obama is a Neocommunist)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Fox reporting now, Gramm stands by his comments.


46 posted on 07/10/2008 2:01:40 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Conservatives will be glad to hear that John McCain will be getting economic advice from Phill Gramm. Never mind.


47 posted on 07/10/2008 2:03:03 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. It is a trace gas necessary for life on earth.)
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To: businessprofessor
Yes, Phil Gramm is a fine and smart man.

Juan mccain just saved me from making a stupedo donation, with his continuation of his “maverick” stupidity of slapping his own side.

48 posted on 07/10/2008 2:05:28 PM PDT by dusttoyou
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To: Jet Jaguar

I’m with Phil on this one. We do whine. Then we look to the government for a fix. Its not good for us.


49 posted on 07/10/2008 2:05:32 PM PDT by linn37 (phlebotomist on duty,its just a little pinch)
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To: horse_doc
"I'm beginning to think that McCain doesn't want to win

Peggy Noonan expressed a similar sentiment in a recent column.

51 posted on 07/10/2008 2:07:11 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: rabscuttle385

TEAM MCCAIN could be reality television. Kinda of like Survivor, where he keeps kicking his own dumbasses off his own island until only the RINO relic remains.


53 posted on 07/10/2008 2:10:24 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: CowboyJay

That’s exactly what I thought. I feel played.


54 posted on 07/10/2008 2:11:08 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

“He can only disappoint you if you expect anything from him.” BEST damn observation of the day!!!


55 posted on 07/10/2008 2:11:14 PM PDT by dusttoyou
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To: Darren McCarty

There are two definitions of recession. The official definition is that the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) has declared there is a recession. Many people prefer a definition that is more transparent and seemingly more objective. The second definition is two quarters of negative economic growth. Neither definition has been met. There is no recession.

The unemployment rate has edged up from 5% to 5.5% since the Democrats took control of Congress. That is a move in the wrong direction. But even 5.5% unemployment is not bad by historic standards.

The price of gasoline has gone up. What do you expect when the worldwide demand goes up and environmentalists restrict supply in the US? Their actions hurt the consumer, reduce jobs, hurt our international trade and the value of the dollar, reduce government revenues, etc. And they don’t do any good for the environment either.


56 posted on 07/10/2008 2:14:03 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant. It is a trace gas necessary for life on earth.)
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To: Abbeville Conservative
I really wish we’d switch horses at the convention but the Republican establishment is too stupid to do anything that smart.

The GOP has 52 days and a wakeup to exercise the nuclear option. If not, don your wetsuit and a snorkel.

57 posted on 07/10/2008 2:15:54 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Phil Gramm was a Dem who when he wouldn't go along with them was thrown under the bus. He didn't just change parties, but resigned and ran again as a Republican and won hands down.

I'm not a big fan of Gramm because he chased cameras, but he has more integrity in his little finger than McCain has in his whole body!

58 posted on 07/10/2008 2:15:55 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: rockinqsranch
Concerned for this November, folks, very concerned.


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59 posted on 07/10/2008 2:16:37 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

Look on the bright side. You’ll get to collect the whole set.


60 posted on 07/10/2008 2:18:35 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The GOP death march to the gravesite is underway.)
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