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To: PastorTony

I will put it to you in words you might be able to understand:

THEY ARE NOT LISTENING TO MY PHONE CONVERSATIONS

Nobody is listening to me.... nobody is listening to you.

I want you to name one person, ONE PERSON that has had their rights infringed upon because to this bill.


60 posted on 07/09/2008 4:31:22 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: envisio

Not that I’m necessarily disagreeing, but if there were no rights infringed prior to this, why is retroactive telecom immunity needed again?


67 posted on 07/09/2008 5:59:06 PM PDT by amchugh (large and largely disgruntled)
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To: envisio

I want to know one act of terrorism that has been stopped because of the modified FISA rules. ONE ACT. Can’t do it, can ya? And most of the people being spied on won’t actually know they’re being spied on. I, for one, am not cool knowing that the government could spy on me if they wanted to. I don’t prescribe to the belief that if I haven’t done anything wrong, I don’t have anything to worry about. Talk about a dictator’s wet dream. A populace that is all too happy to surrender their rights because it’s for their own good. I wonder what else you’d buy.


93 posted on 07/10/2008 11:08:56 AM PDT by Fighting Eagle
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To: envisio
I want you to name one person, ONE PERSON that has had their rights infringed upon because to this bill.

Everyone's rights are infringed upon when the government manages to gain a new power to usurp the Constitution.

According to Article VI, the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. Any action which is contrary to the Constitution is illegitimate.

While a jury would have the power to acquit someone or hold him not liable for obeying an illegitimate order, I see nothing in the Constitution that gives Congress such power. To give Congress plenary power to protect people who obey illegitimate orders of government is to give plenary power to have illegitimate orders enforced. Can you not see the dangers in that?

105 posted on 07/14/2008 8:33:04 PM PDT by supercat
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