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To: 2CAVTrooper

There is no KC-767AT

The planes that were delivered (2 years LATE) were basic KC-767’s. They were NOT the Advanced Tanker that Boeing offered the Air Force.

Delivered late Due to Japan wanting FAA certification.
And how far behind is the A330MRTT.

The first and second KC-45’s have already flown.

Flown to Germany to get fitted for CARGO conversion that the KC-767 already has.

The A330MRTT (which hte KC-45 is based) has already transferred fuel inflight through both the boom and drouge system.

Just like the KC-767 for Japan and Italy They have Flown and are delivered. which the KC-767AT is derived from.


169 posted on 07/15/2008 6:54:17 AM PDT by cmdr straker
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To: cmdr straker; Yo-Yo
And how far behind is the A330MRTT.

June 2008

The first Airbus A330 had arrived in Australia for conversion to a KC-30B Multi Role Tanker Transport (MRTT) under Project AIR 5402.

The aircraft, which is the first of four Airbus A330s to be modified in Australia, arrived at the Qantas Australian Conversion Centre at Brisbane Airport after departing the Airbus facility in Toulouse, France.

http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/news/ontarget/2008/jun08/nb2.cfm

Don't mix up first for conversion with first A330 MRTT for Australia. Australia's first tanker is already converted and flying.

Just like the KC-767 for Japan and Italy They have Flown and are delivered. which the KC-767AT is derived from.

The KC-767 for Italy have not been delivered yet. See my last post above.

Delivered late Due to Japan wanting FAA certification.

The Royal Australian Air Force's first KC-30B Multi-role Tanker/Transport is being readied for its final phase of ground and flight testing, which will clear the way for a 2009 delivery of the world's most advanced aerial tanker platform to a key U.S. ally.

The KC-30B successfully completed Phase I flight testing in just three months earlier this year. During Phase I, the MRTT flight envelope was explored and expanded, aerodynamic and performance data gathered, and aircraft handling qualities validated with the full-up aerial refueling boom and wing pod systems installed. The KC-30B achieved all Phase I objectives, including demonstration that the modified aircraft is free from buffet and flutter throughout the flight envelope. The Phase 1 testing obtained all test data required to support civil certification by the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA).

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/eads-a330-based-tanker-royal-australian/story.aspx?guid=%7B1ADD5C01-DD16-43F6-ADC6-D59AB2D5F034%7D&dist=hppr

Certification by EASA may include the required speed limits for US Air Force.

“KC-767AT is derived from” is not correct. “KC-767AT will be derived from” or “KC-767AT may be derived from.” is better.
Never build,
never flown,
never tested.

171 posted on 07/15/2008 8:34:35 AM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: cmdr straker

“Delivered late Due to Japan wanting FAA certification.
And how far behind is the A330MRTT.”

FAA certification was only a small part of it. The biggest part was DEVELOPMENT ISSUES.

The A330MRTT (KC-45) is closer than the proposed KC-767AT since the plane is already flying meaning it already has an airworthiness certificate because it’s based on the already existing and certified A330-200F.

“Flown to Germany to get fitted for CARGO conversion that the KC-767 already has.”

The KC-767 has to be flown to Kansas for conversion.

“Just like the KC-767 for Japan and Italy They have Flown and are delivered. which the KC-767AT is derived from.”

The KC-767AT is a totally different jet than the basic KC-767.

The KC-767AT is based on the equally non existant 767-200ERF that will use the -400 wing and cockpit cobbled together with the -200 fuselage.

Here is what Boeing’s own tanker program spokesman said just last year:

“We’ve described the platform as a 767-200LR freighter. It will be a derivative of that and it is a freighter that doesn’t exist yet. I would hope this leads you to say it’s
advanced. It’s derivative of something that doesn’t exist yet,”


175 posted on 07/15/2008 12:14:38 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats: Supporting America's enemies since 1824)
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