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Suit seeks ban on oil companies disturbing wildlife
Reuters ^ | 070808 | Yereth Rosen

Posted on 07/08/2008 9:43:23 PM PDT by Fred

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To: Army Air Corps

I imagine that the good Governor is prepared to counter these idiots.”

I admire her - she’s got quite a job on her hands with this (uninformed) insanity.


21 posted on 07/08/2008 10:41:43 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Fred

We should take the opposite tack. A ban on any permanent federal ownership of land. Does the constitution allow the central government the right to hold millions of acres in perpetuity?

No?

Then its time for the land to be returned to the states or turned over to private ownership.


22 posted on 07/08/2008 10:42:49 PM PDT by marron
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To: llandres

She is a fighter, to be certain.


23 posted on 07/08/2008 10:43:17 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: bray

Shouldn’t these clowns be feeding themselves to the Polar Bears rather than causing a footprint??

Man, I wish all these people who don’t read and aren’t informed wouldn’t be allowed to vote, don’t you? Polar bear population at the highest growth in around 50 years, currently off the endangered species list. Town Hall magazine just had an article on it last month.


24 posted on 07/08/2008 10:45:08 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: businessprofessor

With this global warming hysteria, third party lawsuits will cause an energy meltdown even if we get a reasonable energy policy with more drilling and more refineries.”

On the other hand, it might greatly elevate our natural gas supply :-)))


25 posted on 07/08/2008 10:48:25 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: OKIEDOC

I’ve been in that area and the Polar bears don’t even like it.”

yes, if people saw what that northern area (and the few sites of proposed drilling sites) looks like (only about 2,000 acres out of almost 20 million acres), they’d be shocked. Nothing “pristine” here. I have good photos to illustrate the point.


26 posted on 07/08/2008 10:51:58 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: businessprofessor
The power to file third party lawsuits has made environmentalists the fifth branch of government.

Can you please explain what that lawsuit is? I think it means the polar bares cannot sue so these guys do? 

Plus maybe you have a situation where the Sierra Club sues even though it has no members where the suit is filed

27 posted on 07/08/2008 10:53:28 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Army Air Corps

Property rights are not recognized in Federal District Court, the only way to challenge the enviroidiots would be for the oil companys involved to challenge the Federal District Court’s authority in the case, and get the suit dropped from Federal Court, then get it in State court where property rights, or mineral rights as then case may be do apply.


28 posted on 07/08/2008 10:59:29 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Fred

So the poor (people that the environmentalists claim to care so much about) can continue to groan under high gas prices.

Keep voting Democrat. :D


29 posted on 07/08/2008 11:13:25 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: businessprofessor

Why can’t we sue the environmentalists for causing us pain and suffering? Seems to me we have the same right as they do....their actions are directly affecting each and every one of us.


30 posted on 07/08/2008 11:20:40 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Fred

There is no sane way to deal with the insanity of environmentalist wackos, it is simply time to get serious with them and their enablers, very, very serious.


31 posted on 07/08/2008 11:22:11 PM PDT by The Cajun
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To: dalereed

Time for open season on environmentalist whackos.


32 posted on 07/09/2008 12:23:17 AM PDT by Mogollon ($5/gal Gas....Kick the Jacka$$es Out!)
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To: vetvetdoug
The environmentalist are the least of our worries, consumers are are biggest threat to oil consumption and exploration. How many of drivers you see on the road today that are driving 4 wheel drives and SUVs down the Hy-ways and streets and they never use those vehicle off road. Instead it is a status that people have created for a self image, ego if you will. Those are type of people that are the greater threat to consumption and exploration. Point is this, if we can reeducate those people, even though they have money, to conserve rather than to splurge.

Now I am not standing up for any particular interest group, I am just bring one point to the table that no one has addressed. The environmentalist are like a pack of dogs, if they do not have a victim to pursue they will bark and bite each other, or until another victim comes along.

Now let's explore the thought of where can we find more oil. Well I live in southern Montana and I happen to know where there is an abundance of oil is located or let's say a very strong supported idea where it is located.

In the late 1970s and into the early 1980s there was an extreme amount of exploration taking place just about 90 miles northwest of where I live. I was there the day that the geologist stacked the oil drilling rig, Brinkerhoff-Signal Rig 82. At a normal reading on the seismograph the needle barely wiggle (noise from drill bit), but on this day the needles were off the scale, geologist came into the seismo room, turn white as a sheet, and went directly to the driller and instructed him to cut power and trip out of the hole. I took a glance at the log book and saw that the rig was at 5,300 feet.

The rig was moved to another site 22 miles toward the southwest, rig was stacked at 5,900 feet. There was 6 sites that this rig drilled and all holes were within 25 miles of each other and all were 5,300 to 6,000 feet deep. Now it does not take a Phd to figure that one out.

Here is the reason behind this, it is much cheaper to store it under ground, no royalties, everyone gets a tax break, and gives lawyers enough time to tidy up mineral rights.

My belief that there is not an energy crisis, nor has there ever been one, it was just another excuse for oil companies to jack up the price. It is all about putting the screws to the consumer and seeing how much is too much that we will pay. Nothing more nothing less!
MK

33 posted on 07/09/2008 1:20:48 AM PDT by Montana Kid (The real oil crisis)
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To: Fred
More environmentalists? Good, the polar bears are hungry...
34 posted on 07/09/2008 2:18:13 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Fred
We should all remember this when we're hearing about heating oil going for $8 to $10 per gallon this winter, and $12 to $15 gallons next winter.

These environmental zealots are the reason.

35 posted on 07/09/2008 3:17:36 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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To: Fred; Prophet in the wilderness
Standing on the Word of God with you, Prophet ...

New American Standard Bible (©1995)

God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth."Genesis 1:28 ~ Just a few words into the Bible and we know what we should be doing ...

36 posted on 07/09/2008 4:00:21 AM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His word ...)
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To: Montana Kid

I don’t know what you are saying...the oil companies don’t want to harvest oil?


37 posted on 07/09/2008 4:24:41 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Army Air Corps
I liked the previous law suit better.

Last year, or maybe the year before, they sued because they might be disturbing the whales during the natives hunting of them.

They wanted the oil companies to leave the whales alone so the locals could kill them easier.

38 posted on 07/09/2008 4:37:36 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Fred

I hear bear meat is pretty greasy, I would how much biodiesel can be made per bear?


39 posted on 07/09/2008 4:40:03 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (The world WILL be cleaner, safer and more productive without Islam.)
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To: iopscusa

I don’t know what you are saying...the oil companies don’t want to harvest oil?


That would be a first in the 30+ years I’ve been in oil and gas. Yea I’d like to see the looks on my investors faces when I tell them we’ve hit one hell of a zone, but we’re going to sit on it and not produce it. What a BS story. They’d sue me so fast.


40 posted on 07/09/2008 4:40:13 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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