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After protesting gun rule, Disney guard is fired
Orlando Sentinel ^ | July 8, 2008 | Scott Powers

Posted on 07/08/2008 1:21:49 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
Latest poll results:

Should Disney employees with concealed-weapons permits be allowed to keep their guns in their cars while at work?

Yes. All other employees are able to. (14823 responses)
81.3%

No. It's too dangerous for visitors. (3251 responses)
17.8%

Not sure (159 responses)
0.9%

18233 total responses (Results not scientific)
41 posted on 07/08/2008 2:34:13 PM PDT by ninergold3 (Don't like my attitude? Then get one of your own!)
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To: TYVets
Kern, Terence C.

Federal Judicial Service:

Judge, U. S. District Court, Northern District of Oklahoma

Nominated by William J. Clinton on March 9, 1994, Confirmed by the Senate on June 8, 1994.

The Legacy of the Clinton's.

42 posted on 07/08/2008 2:39:05 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: TYVets
Kern was appointed United States District Judge for the Northern District of Oklahoma by President William Jefferson.

I figured as much.

43 posted on 07/08/2008 2:39:37 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: justlurking

The exemption is supposed to be for highly explosive industries. Disney claims they qualify because they obtained a permit because they have such a large amount of fireworks stored on the property. Apparently since they have the permit, they do technically qualify, although the law wasn’t meant for their type of exemption.


44 posted on 07/08/2008 2:46:08 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: neverdem
New sign after lawsuit ........ Walt Edwin Sotomayor Disney World !
45 posted on 07/08/2008 2:59:16 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Joe Brower

Woof !


46 posted on 07/08/2008 3:01:16 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: autumnraine

I think the law also states that the reason for the exemption has to be the primary industry of the company in question.

Storing fireworks doesn’t cover Disney, IMHO.


47 posted on 07/08/2008 3:01:38 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter Part Deux)
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To: justlurking
Is there really an exemption in the law, or is Disney just thinking they can outlast challengers in the courts?

Jiminy Crickets! Did they think he was going to do something Goofy?

48 posted on 07/08/2008 3:04:31 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: autumnraine
The exemption is supposed to be for highly explosive industries.

AOL uses explosives?

AOL Can Fire Gun-Owning Employees

3 employees of AOL fired September 2000.

Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 8:56:58 PM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1177470/posts

49 posted on 07/08/2008 3:08:26 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

However, the bill states that property owned or leased by an employer who has a permit required by federal law to manufacture, use, store or move explosives would still be off limits. Disney has a permit for its fireworks shows.


That’s not what the law says. An honest reporter wouldn’t paraphrase it to please the Disney lawyers. He would quote it.

“(6) exceptions.—the prohibitions in subsection (2) do not apply to:...
(d) property owned or leased by an employer or the landlord of an employer upon which the primary business conducted is the manufacture, use, storage, or transportation of combustible or explosive materials regulated under state or federal law.”

Disney is not in the fireworks making or warehousing business. This was intended to apply to oil refineries, fuel tank farms, and ammunition manufacturers.

Following Disney’s logic, any business with a can of gasoline or solvent would be exempt.


50 posted on 07/08/2008 3:08:59 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don't kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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To: TYVets

Oh wow!


51 posted on 07/08/2008 3:09:11 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: neverdem
"Should Disney employees with concealed-weapons permits be allowed to keep their guns in their cars while at work?"

Where is:

"No. Disney employees with concealed-weapons permits should be allowed to keep their guns on their persons while at work."

52 posted on 07/08/2008 3:09:13 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I don’t think the parking lot covers any employer. Unless they are storing explosives in the parking lot.


53 posted on 07/08/2008 3:10:03 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Stark_GOP
Isn’t it private property?
Just like you have the right to determine if someone brings a weapon unto your property, so does Disney.

That's not the law in my state. Sure, you can say (for instance) no midgets are allowed on your property, but if you own a store, you are dealing with the public. Utah law states that if you have opened your property to the public, your open your property to public law, and lawful concealed carry is legal. There is an allowance for churches to post a no guns sign. Carry is legal in the malls, parks, schools, anywhere that isn't a "secure" area (courts, jails, and of course all federally restricted sites).

DMV employees and teachers carry in Utah, God bless em.

54 posted on 07/08/2008 3:13:19 PM PDT by glock rocks (Baraq Hussein Obama ~ black, white, and red all over.)
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To: Stark_GOP
Isn’t it private property?
Just like you have the right to determine if someone brings a weapon unto your property, so does Disney.

The narrow issue here is that his car is his private property. He was fired for not giving permission to some Mickey Mouse cops to search said property.

55 posted on 07/08/2008 3:21:24 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Society is well governed when the people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law)
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To: Beelzebubba

After reading the law, it is obvious Disney is in violation. You are right that the reporter paraphrased it to say something it doesn’t.


56 posted on 07/08/2008 3:33:25 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: neverdem
Disney advised its employees late last month that the theme-park resort is exempt from that state law, and that they may not bring firearms onto the property.

It is?? Why on earth would it be (other than Disney's well known propensity for buying the best legislators money can buy)?

57 posted on 07/08/2008 3:45:28 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Typical white person)
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To: Stark_GOP

Disney’s property ends at the bottom of your tires.


58 posted on 07/08/2008 3:52:43 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Stark_GOP
"Isn’t it private property? Just like you have the right to determine if someone brings a weapon unto your property, so does Disney."

The gun isn't "on" Disney property--it's inside the car, which is the car owner's property. Just because the car happens to be sitting on Disney dirt changes that not one bit. And Florida law now specifically says that employees CAN have guns in their cars at their places of employment--of which said law, Disney is NOT exempt (though they are claiming to be).

59 posted on 07/08/2008 4:07:26 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

The Disney policy is very similar to the policy on US Military bases. You may not bring your weapon onto base, Conceal/Carry permit or not.


60 posted on 07/08/2008 4:07:53 PM PDT by Diverdogz
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