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Aggressive bear shot in Denali National Park and Preserve
Fairbanks Daily News-Miner ^ | July 6, 2008

Posted on 07/08/2008 12:55:40 PM PDT by george76

An aggressive black bear was shot and killed in a remote section of Denali National Park by park staffers on July 4...

The black bear had threatened the life and safety of three park employees ...

Three seasonal National Park Service technicians were conducting a botany field study along the remote river when a sub-adult black bear approached their camp ...

The three tried to scare it away by yelling, waving their arms and throwing objects at the bear. After being chased off into dense brush, the bear circled back to the camp three or four times. At one point, the animal destroyed a tent. On its final approach to the camp, the bear charged the three researchers, hissing and pouncing at the ground.

An attempt to divert the bear with pepper spray was ineffective.

One of the researchers, who was authorized to carry and use firearms in the park, shot the bear when it charged within 20 feet of the team. The bear was hit in its mid-section with a 12-gauge shotgun slug. Despite considerable blood loss, the wounded bear moved into dense vegetation and out of view.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsminer.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; bang; banglist; bear; bearattack; blackbear; blackbearattack; denali; nationalpark; nps; pepperspray; wildlife
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To: brushcop
I once got accidentally sprayed with capsicum. Long story -- partly my fault.

If it doesn't incapacitate a plump 40ish (at that time) matron with a desk job, it is definitely NOT going to incapacitate a thug OR a bear. All it did was make my eyes burn and make me VERY embarassed.

21 posted on 07/08/2008 1:38:35 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: george76
Does pepper spray protect people from bears?

Only from very insular ones, who do not like spicy foreign foods.

22 posted on 07/08/2008 1:39:34 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: MBB1984
Center of mass for the first shot - I would go high chest, I think, but not neck. Too easy to miss when the panic's on.

Followup shots to the neck and head, however, would be a really good idea.

I have to disagree about 12 ga. when the chips are down. I want a nice big Nosler with serious muzzle energy behind it, and I want a bunch of them in that bear in quick succession.

23 posted on 07/08/2008 1:40:31 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: absolootezer0; george76
after enough people find out the hard way that it doesn’t, the bear is preseasoned

OH!

You mean, you're supposed to spray the BEAR; not yourself?!?

I thought the idea was to make you taste terrible when it tried to eat you. *<];-)

24 posted on 07/08/2008 1:42:14 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: Little Ray
I thought the proverbial "Bear Medicine" was a .348 Winchester Model 71 lever action with the big 250 gr Silvertips.

At least that was what my mom had. My dad was going to buy the .375 H&H, but mom turned up pregnant with me instead.

25 posted on 07/08/2008 1:43:20 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: BibChr

The operative word is “seasonal” Park employees. They’re part-timers...


26 posted on 07/08/2008 1:43:50 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: LibWhacker
Dunno.
I got this from my Father-in-law, Dr. Garret Brass - he was a technocrat for the Federales and had his own little fleet in of icebreakers... Been to the North Pole 5 times.

What I have READ (if I have any choice, you won't catch me close enough to bear, esp. a polar bear, to actually shoot it...) is that you aim for the shoulders. The object is to shatter the shoulder blade and stop its charge. Apparently a bear will keep coming on a bit before he figures out he's dead.
The guy who wrote this shot 3 Grizzlies in AK, one right after another, when they attacked him. Seems it was the end of the hibernation period and they though he and his wife looked like a easy meal...
He used a big game rifle, though.

27 posted on 07/08/2008 1:45:34 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

“1. Undergunned. 12 gauge is a great tool for aggressive humans. It ain’t enough for aggressive black bears. “

By all accounts a 12 G w slugs is plenty for a black bear, and is even acceptable for Griz at close range. The failure in this case was due to poor marksmanship. A hit in the same spot from a 375 H&H would likely have the same result. Not following up on the wounded bear was unforgivable.


28 posted on 07/08/2008 1:45:46 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

spray yourself? why would you spray yourself with seasoning? i guess it might work if it was a vegan bear..


29 posted on 07/08/2008 1:46:40 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
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To: Little Ray
Yes, and a bear in my back yard took a 12 gage slug in the shoulder that broke its shoulder bone, made mincemeat of its heart and lungs; and it still ran about a hundred yards crashing through thick brush before it fell.
30 posted on 07/08/2008 1:47:43 PM PDT by allmendream
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To: AnAmericanMother

Sounds like that would do the trick. I just know that my Father in Law said his folks carried 12 gauges with slugs.
Maybe they WERE undergunned...


31 posted on 07/08/2008 1:49:20 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: LibWhacker

I do have a question about shot placement though... “
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It was a lousy shot.


32 posted on 07/08/2008 1:50:03 PM PDT by cowdog77
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To: absolootezer0
why would you spray yourself with seasoning?

Because spraying the bear is just going to cause it to lose whatever it had left of its gruntle.

A partially disgruntled bear is bad enough, but a totally disgruntled one is worse.

33 posted on 07/08/2008 1:50:42 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: george76
...conducting a botany field study...

That's a tough environmentalist quandry, plants or bear.

I guess the plant won.

-PJ

34 posted on 07/08/2008 1:52:52 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: allmendream

That is scary. I’m glad he ran away rather than at you!


35 posted on 07/08/2008 1:52:53 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a Conservative. But I can vote for John McCain. If I have to. I guess.)
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To: george76

Tasty chicken-fried bearsteak and gravy. Yummm!


36 posted on 07/08/2008 1:53:53 PM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, study, learn, then express an opinion)
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To: Little Ray
Very scary. But I wasn't there, it was my step dad and my brother and THEY were up a tree stand they built for that purpose. Smart move. That bear was over 6 feet tall sitting on its ass. It was Halloween night and I was down in Chico CA for some cold beer and hot women.
37 posted on 07/08/2008 1:55:30 PM PDT by allmendream
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To: Political Junkie Too

They were probably all stoned and paniced when the bear got frisky. Why didn’t they jump into their truck and leave the area? ...to continue their botany field trip.


38 posted on 07/08/2008 1:55:43 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: Little Ray

Also the angle of the shot was towards the heart from the shoulder. Hard to get that angle on a 7 foot tall bear when you are on the ground! Tree stand highly recommended for shooting large bears!!!!


39 posted on 07/08/2008 1:58:33 PM PDT by allmendream
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To: AnAmericanMother

“I have to disagree about 12 ga. when the chips are down. I want a nice big Nosler with serious muzzle energy behind it, and I want a bunch of them in that bear in quick succession.”

A 375 H&H has ~4660 ft #s of energy with a 300 gr bullet. A 12 g magnum slug at 75 caliber, 437 gr bullet with <3500 ft #s. That’s pretty serious and most people have a 12 G in their closets rather than having to buy a $3000 rifle.


40 posted on 07/08/2008 1:58:49 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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