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An Agenda For a 'Politics of Aspiration'
orange county register ^ | July 6, 2008 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 07/06/2008 3:23:25 PM PDT by kellynla

Syndicated columnist Bob Novak, writing about the surprising number of conservatives who are backing Democrat Barack Obama rather than Republican John McCain for the presidency, captured their widespread sentiment when he quoted one "Obamacon" with impeccable GOP credentials: "The Republican Party is a dead rotting carcass with a few decrepit old leaders stumbling around like zombies in a horror version of 'Weekend at Bernie,' handcuffed to a corpse." These Obama supporters hold no illusions about Obama's liberalism, but they are so angry at the GOP, Novak writes, that they seek a "therapeutic electoral bloodbath."

Thomas Jefferson argued that "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." From an electoral standpoint, the tree of reform must be refreshed occasionally with the bitter defeat of corrupt, craven, unprincipled and brain-dead politicians. The GOP has the worst offenders these days, so off with their heads – figuratively speaking, of course.

President Bush has increased the size of the federal government faster than even LBJ. Bush promised the nation a humbler foreign policy. Certainly, that's a dead letter. There was a time when Republicans understood the importance of the separation of powers and other protections against centralized government. No more. Another Republican with unassailable credentials, former Reagan appointee Paul Craig Roberts, wrote recently: "The Republican Party has shown beyond all doubt that it holds the U.S. Constitution in total contempt. Today, the Republican Party stands for unaccountable executive power. To re-elect such a party is to murder liberty in America."

No one expects Democrats to be any better, any more constitutional (check out Democratic Supreme Court appointees' opposition to the right of gun ownership in the recent Heller case) or any more capable at bringing the troops home.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; gop; greenhut; politics; republican; stevengreenhut
"Four or eight years of a President Obama with a Democratic Congress..." will guarantee a Liberal Supreme Court for the next twenty years and kill (pun intended) any chances for a reversal of Roe & for tens of millions of babies yet to be born. And I won't even get into what will happen to our continued success in Iraq & Afhanistan; Obama won't be able to withdraw the troops soon enough and pull defeat out of the jaws of success.

I have a lot of issues with McCain but they I haven't been able to not hold my nose and vote for an "R" for POTUS since Reagan and the alternative is just not an option. The unborn, a conservative Supreme Court and our success in the WOT depend on Obama not being elected POTUS.

Semper Fi, Kelly

Remember the Viet Nam war was lost in America not Viet Nam!

1 posted on 07/06/2008 3:23:26 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

The very last thing we need, right now, is a “theraputic, electoral bloodbath”...

We need to all realize that Presidencies are the ‘gift that keeps on giving’. A president’s legacy far outlives his term in office. Witness the spectacularly stupid Jimmuh Cahtuh. We’re still living with the fallout from that imbecile.
Reagan? Still feeling the effects. Bush the Elder? Yep. Clintoon? ‘Nuff said.

Any Obama presidency would be the same, especially with a Democrat controlled Congress. The Federal judgeships and likely SCOTUS appointments, alone, would set back conservatism for the next 30 years or more. The long term damage from his espoused cut and run policy in the WOT will be felt for generations to come. His economic pogroms will redefine the nanny state and extend the philosophy of entitlements for decades into the future.

We don’t need that...


2 posted on 07/06/2008 3:47:42 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: kellynla
The article is basically another idiotic liberaltarian suicide rant. No one with a particle of sanity, maturity, or real devotion to liberty would turn the country over to a Marxist with Muslim, terrorist, and corrupt connections unmatched by any major party candidate in history, just to punish the Republican Party. Every Supreme Court justice who voted against eminent domain, for 2nd Amendment rights, and against habeas rights for Muzzie terrorists was appointed by a Republican President.

As for Paul Craig Roberts being someone of "unimpeachable" credentials and a Reagan appointee, Ronald Reagan himself would never have bailed out and supported a socialist, just out of juvenile spite. Reagan stayed through with the Party after it nominated one of those dopey "decrepit old leaders," Gerald Ford, over himself. Patriots do not give in and hand the battlefield over to the enemy, ever.

3 posted on 07/06/2008 4:00:14 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: PubliusMM

I agree!


4 posted on 07/06/2008 4:06:22 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

[... a surprising number of conservatives are backing Democrat
Barack Obama rather than Republican John McCain for the presidency ...]

Oh really? Blow it out your ear Novak. What is your litmus for
conservative, huh? Nice try... idiot!


5 posted on 07/06/2008 4:06:54 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

bet ya didn’t know Bob Novak posts here all the time.. just kidding but who knows?

what is posted as the Novak-like main argument is that if you don’t vote for McCain, you are voting for Obama.

It’s a form of intellectual badgering that is standard ops it seems for a certain few in the GoP to blow off conservatives that don’t get in line.

sadly, we’ve seen it all before... and have paid the price dearly, especially in California. ;-)


6 posted on 07/06/2008 4:15:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I am fed up with pundits telling me that my fellow
conservatives are voting for Obama to punish the GOP.
It’s the media and the Dems who need to be punished.
If Novak really had an audience with a conservative,
that’s what he’d hear after he got punched in the nose.

The best punishment would be a grassroots campaign to
elect a third party candidate. If only...


7 posted on 07/06/2008 4:20:57 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: kellynla

pseudoconservative proDemocrat Novak who outed Plame = traitor to America


8 posted on 07/06/2008 4:22:29 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: NormsRevenge

“what is posted as the Novak-like main argument is that if you don’t vote for McCain, you are voting for Obama.”

Hard to argue with that. Ross Perot, draining votes from Bush I, gave us 8 years of Clinton.


9 posted on 07/06/2008 4:46:32 PM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: Diogenesis

Paul Craig Roberts flipped into something not conservative some time ago...I think he went over the clift, lost his marbles and fits right in with Obamacons...they can have him.


10 posted on 07/06/2008 4:51:47 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: kellynla
"The Republican Party is a dead rotting carcass with a few decrepit old leaders stumbling around like zombies in a horror version of 'Weekend at Bernie,' handcuffed to a corpse."

And Obama and Co. are "like unmarked graves, which men walk over without knowing it."

11 posted on 07/06/2008 4:56:29 PM PDT by avenir
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To: kellynla

I don’t know what to think. the current GOP has no vitality. it is like Bush Sr who did not stand for anything didn’t do anything and didn’t believe in anything. It is completely unresponsive to anyone but a few country clubbers. it seems to have no message to connect with a majority of the people (either its own base or the independent swing voter. Usually like a drunk a party that is this moribund has to hit bottom. so it is easy to agree that a defeat would be the best thing for it. After all with a coming recession and another McBush administration we are only going to sink further. On the other hand Obama will have three SCOTUS appointees and while I suspect he would ail. If he succeeds and opens the door to 40 million illegals that is the end of this country. so, what do we do?


12 posted on 07/06/2008 5:00:49 PM PDT by bilhosty
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To: kellynla

I don’t know what to think. the current GOP has no vitality. it is like Bush Sr who did not stand for anything didn’t do anything and didn’t believe in anything. It is completely unresponsive to anyone but a few country clubbers. it seems to have no message to connect with a majority of the people (either its own base or the independent swing voter. Usually like a drunk a party that is this moribund has to hit bottom. so it is easy to agree that a defeat would be the best thing for it. After all with a coming recession and another McBush administration we are only going to sink further. On the other hand Obama will have three SCOTUS appointees and while I suspect he would ail. If he succeeds and opens the door to 40 million illegals that is the end of this country. so, what do we do?


13 posted on 07/06/2008 5:00:49 PM PDT by bilhosty
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To: Ben Chad

Ross Perot gave us 4 years of Clinton,
Bob Dole helped pile on 4 more, imo.

I don’t see Bob Barr as a Ross Perot this go-around, and even adding Ralph Nader to the mix, still negligible imo to the final outcome.

Too bad conservatives don’t have a candidate they could vote for in good faith... but in the end, that’s what this is all about, who will be faithful to their word... and their aspirations.


14 posted on 07/06/2008 5:28:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: kellynla

The only thing worse than a rotting GOP is voting for Obama (or sitting out the election) so that the GOP — and our country — can rot some more.


15 posted on 07/06/2008 5:44:22 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: kellynla

A therapeutic bloodbath? What a load. Anyone who actually believes that has literally gone to the evil side and will burn with regret if they ever regain their senses.


16 posted on 07/06/2008 7:35:23 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: kellynla

Hail Ants!! Obama is tacking toward the middle and some (as of yet unnamed) conservatives will be there to greet him. Obamacons are sort of like Jews for Hitler, there really is no upside.


17 posted on 07/06/2008 10:37:45 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obama's idea of trickle-down economics is to piss on business.)
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