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To: JNL
To be completely honest Wilson/Plame were determined to be liars by the 9/11 Commission. Plame did recruit her husband to go to Nigeria which was inconsistent with her statement to the Commission. Wilson did not make a complete written report to the CIA about his clandestine visit to Niger. Wilson lied in his editorial in the NYT claiming Bush's SOTU address was a lie. He also lied to the Commission.

Saddam did have yellow cake. When he had purchased it is immaterial considering the character we were dealing with taking National Security into account.

What really pisses me off, the damn CIA had to send the irresponsible Wilson over to Niger AFTER 9/11 to determine the facts on the ground. WTF, we are paying this agency $30 billion dollars per year and they have no freekin idea who is attempting to purchase yellow cake? And you are trying to determine the honesty of the Libby/Wilson BS????? Please, spare me. This issue ticks me off to no end.

BTW, Bush's statement in the SOTU 2003 only said that Saddam attempted to purchase yellow cake and he quoted British intelligence. His statement was absolutely true. Don't you know that? If now why not? Here is the exact quote:

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”

67 posted on 07/06/2008 5:55:53 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader)
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To: Chgogal; Jo Nuvark
What really pisses me off, the damn CIA had to send the irresponsible Wilson over to Niger AFTER 9/11 to determine the facts on the ground. WTF, we are paying this agency $30 billion dollars per year and they have no freekin idea who is attempting to purchase yellow cake? And you are trying to determine the honesty of the Libby/Wilson BS????? Please, spare me. This issue ticks me off to no end.

Yes, exactly. The Wilson affair revealed for anyone paying attention that CIA had apparently no one at all on the ground in a uranium producing country, a country in which Al Qaeda was trying to get a foothold, by the way.

If they had, they might have picked up on Libya's purchases, maybe.

Or maybe not. Do you remember from the 911 commission that Navy Intel notified CIA of a trader who supposedly wanted to come clean about uranium smuggling, and had a warehouse of the stuff at the port.

CIA never interviewed the guy. Their response was, "oh, were we supposed to?" And they waited a month before they sent anyone to look at the warehouse, and then found nothing.

And it might be worth reminding people that Wilson was in bed with a Saudi partner who was on Saddam's oil-for-food tab. So, where does that lead us?

71 posted on 07/06/2008 6:10:19 PM PDT by marron
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To: Chgogal

The state dept and the CIA are infested with leftists. That explains it.


87 posted on 07/07/2008 12:07:15 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Chgogal
To be completely honest Wilson/Plame were determined to be liars by the 9/11 Commission. Plame did recruit her husband to go to Nigeria which was inconsistent with her statement to the Commission. Wilson did not make a complete written report to the CIA about his clandestine visit to Niger. Wilson lied in his editorial in the NYT claiming Bush's SOTU address was a lie. He also lied to the Commission.

Something else to keep in mind is a lot of Wilson's argument was the President saying that the Iraqis were looking for Yellowcake, and Wilson screaming indignantly that they the Iraqis hadn't bought any Yellowcake (at that time) from the Nigerian government. This a few months after Wilson's early 2003 editorial arguing that we shouldn't invade Iraq because his oodles of WMDs would make such an attack a disaster.

102 posted on 07/08/2008 4:19:24 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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