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To: shrinkermd

I want to be clear up front I didn’t read more than the first page of the article although I usually do before posting.

I own a small business in Tucson, Arizona and agree that there is a problem hiring illegals here. And that we need to stop that practice.

What I don’t like is making business owners responsible for border enforcement. If they can’t get here I can’t hire them. As far as I know I’ve never hired an illegal and I never will on purpose. As another insane obstacle here in Arizona (according to my employment agency) I can’t even inquire as to immigration status until AFTER I hire them. Then if they’re a member of some protected minority my company may get sued.

But there are people (insert well-known but unsayable group name here) that are crossing our borders that don’t want jobs; they want jihad and checking a federal database won’t keep them out.


9 posted on 07/05/2008 6:52:01 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (Do I waste my time explaining? He had such trouble with my name.)
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To: AZ .44 MAG

I’m from Wisconsin
Law here is 10 days to file new hire with the state including name, date of birth and social security
Also, you have to show picture id and s.s. card prior to being hired
Sounds simple enough to me

Those employers complaining just want to keep their costs down while the rest of us foot the bill.


15 posted on 07/05/2008 8:19:59 PM PDT by mouse1
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To: AZ .44 MAG
Then if they’re a member of some protected minority my company may get sued.

"Hispanics" have no historical basis for protected status. They are not a race, they are a geographical group, an an ill-defined one at that. Brazilians, for example, are not Hispanic because they speak Portuguese. Spaniards, on the other hand, are even though they are on the opposite side of the Atlantic.

Any amnesty or guest worker program should bring with it a price that anyone admitted under such programs must agree to forgo "groupism" or legally defined "minority" status as a price of admission into a country which has never legally discriminated against them in anything remotely close to the legal discriminations against blacks and American Indians.

16 posted on 07/05/2008 8:35:28 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: AZ .44 MAG

Sorry .44, but business should be ACCOUNTABLE for following the law. No one is asking you to make a citizens arrest, just fire someone whose documents don’t check out. Enforcement would be a lot easier if these people didn’t have willing business owner accomplices once they got here.

And BTW, its pretty darn obvious 99% of the time who the illegals are. Speaking little or no English is a big hint. Anyone with common sense and integrity can avoid hiring these people in the first place.


23 posted on 07/05/2008 9:21:54 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: AZ .44 MAG

Let me help you out here... If they don’t speak and read english fluently, they probably are illegal...

Now, that wasn’t so hard was it?


33 posted on 07/05/2008 11:02:37 PM PDT by babygene (This Government no longer works to secure our freedoms and provide for our common defense.)
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