How many will die before we get serious?

UK Telegraph ^ | July 05 2008 | Simon Heffer

[knighthawk]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the reaction of the liberal Left to the epidemic of stabbed teenage boys that is not merely bereaving family upon family, but is also disfiguring society. They argue it is society's fault. The state, they say, is spending too little on giving the murderers pleasant places to live, and is failing to supply them with recreational facilities or "mentors". Inevitably, therefore, they feel the need to go out and kill: as one does.

That this is self-serving, ignorant nonsense should not be in dispute. How to win the argument with these people is another matter. One can say that many people now in middle or old age grew up in circumstances so deprived and so primitive that they would now be classed as fit only for animals: yet they did not feel the need, when afflicted by "child poverty", to go out and stab people. That is irrelevant, we are told, because times have changed.

They certainly have. As I have written before, a welfare state that absolves people of responsibility for their own lives, and for bringing up their children, has created this feral society in which the recourse to lethal violence is second nature to so many young boys.

[knighthawk]

Ping

[EagleUSA]

LIBERALISM — a mental disorder, a disease, a blight upon the world. When will society rise up and put an end to this gross sickness.

[umgud]

Jeez, I didn’t know they had Amish teens over there.

[Thinkin]

The comments at the end of the article are very interesting...looks like the Brits are truly fed up with the liberal / socialist agenda..

[MississippiMan]

Liberals have been trying fervently for the last several decades to create a Godless world. Now we’re getting one.

Liberalism is one of Satan’s most successful campaigns ever.

MM

[Parley Baer]

They need to add our 2nd amendment to what ever “constitution” or “bill of rights” they have. Carrying a gun cuts way down on knife fights.

[Emperor Palpatine]

I believe its called the Magna Carta.

[truthguy]

Unless Britain can come to grips with the true nature of what is happening to them then it has no future. Every thinking person knows what is going on in the UK. They know who the thugs of society really are. But the forces of political correctness are so great that nobody can really speak out. Many years ago there was a man who had the courage to speak out. His name for Enoch Powell. He understood the situation completely and spoke out against it. For this he was vilified in the media.
For you Freepers out there I encourage you to read the speeches of Enoch Powell. Many of you already know of Powell and what he was saying all those years ago. For those of you who have never heard of him, I encourage you to get a real insight into a really great man with tremendous courage.
You cannot fix a problem until you understand the problem. Enoch Powell understood the problem.

[Goldsborough]

“This royal throne of kings, this sceptred isle,
This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
This other Eden, demi-paradise,
This fortress built by Nature for herself
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,—
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.”

They have fallen pretty far from the above. The modern UK is degenerate.

[Left2Right]

"They need to add our 2nd amendment to what ever “constitution” or “bill of rights” they have. Carrying a gun cuts way down on knife fights."

They should also bring back the death penalty for murderers and clean up London the way Rudy cleaned up NYC. I doubt it will happen, though. The British seem bent on self-destruction thanks to the giant welfare state they have created. So much for Merry Old England!

[Condor51]

*** They need to add our 2nd amendment to what ever “constitution” or “bill of rights” they have. ***

They don't have either. In the UK they're not even real 'citizens' in our sense of the word. They are 'Subjects of the Crown' and have no inalienable rights. Whatever Parliament says - goes.

And IIRC the Magna Carta that #8 refereed to only pertained to Barons (Nobility) Rights and the King (Royalty), not to commoners.

[JustaDumbBlonde]

"Unless Britain can come to grips with the true nature of what is happening to them then it has no future. Every thinking person knows what is going on in the UK. They know who the thugs of society really are. But the forces of political correctness are so great that nobody can really speak out."

There is absolutely nothing in those sentences that does not apply right here in the good ole US of A. Perhaps we should come to grips with our own society before we go discovering what others should be doing (assuming that you are not a British citizen).

[jpsb]

hmmm, I am begining to like the telegraph

[truthguy]

“There is absolutely nothing in those sentences that does not apply right here in the good ole US of A. Perhaps we should come to grips with our own society before we go discovering what others should be doing (assuming that you are not a British citizen). “

Of course you are right but the article posted was about the UK. So I made comments about the UK. If the article was about the US, then I would have made statements about the US. I don’t subscribe to the argument that unless things are perfect here (or very good), we cannot comment on issues elsewhere. Besides despite being different countries, we have a very close cultural connections to the UK. I guess I don’t need to explain this to you. Do I? And if you read the UK newspapers, they have very strong opinions about what is happening in the US.
Finally yes I’m an American of British extraction 2 generations back and we have relatives in UK. I’ve been there often.

[facedown]

...a welfare state that absolves people of responsibility for their own lives, and for bringing up their children, has created this feral society in which the recourse to lethal violence is second nature to so many young boys.

Exactly.