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Weather Eye: earth's oval-shaped orbit creates strange effect
The Times ^ | 7/4/2008 | Paul Simons

Posted on 07/04/2008 7:52:08 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Today the Earth is at aphelion, its farthest distance from the Sun during the whole year, and this year the Earth will be at its second farthest aphelion of the century. Not that it will feel much different though.

The reason for aphelion is the slightly oval-shaped orbit of the Earth around the Sun, with the Sun slightly off-centre. So at this aphelion the Earth lies about 152 million km (94.5 million miles) away from the Sun, roughly 2.4 million km (1.5 million miles) more than average.

That means that the Sun will appear 1.7 per cent smaller in the sky and 7 per cent less bright at aphelion than at perihelion, its closest distance to the Sun, which happened in early January. This makes our summers slightly cooler in the northern hemisphere, but the difference is hardly noticeable.

Another strange effect at aphelion is that the Earth travels most slowly in its yearly orbit – an illustration of this can be seen at www.analemma.com. This slowing down stretches out the summer in the northern hemisphere by almost five days.

The elliptical orbit, as well as the tilt of the Earth, can also add up to 15 minutes’ difference between sundial and clock time. This is called the equation of time.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: analemma; climatechange
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To: bruinbirdman

Thanks. Fascinating.

A bit more than I ever wanted to know but very fascinating.

LOL.


21 posted on 07/04/2008 8:53:12 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: dr_lew
From the above data, how many Tropical Years will it take for perihelion to occur six months later than it does at any given time?

Answer:

1/2 ( 1 / ( 1/365.24219 - 1/365.25964 ) )/365.24219

or 10466 Tropical Years

So in 20,932 years our situation will be reversed? North America will tilt toward the sun at perihelion?

22 posted on 07/04/2008 8:53:53 PM PDT by Spirochete
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To: hosepipe; xcamel; Reform Canada; steelyourfaith
No.

This year's cooler temperatures are most likely due to the TOTAL lack of sunspots since spring 2007: Solar Cycle 24 is now 14 months behind schedule, and there have been no sunspots since early December 2007. Cycle 23 slowly ended - though there have been two or three “old cycle” sunspots since November.

No sunspots means very, very little magnetic field from the sun -> so less shielding from the cosmic rays coming in from the galaxy -> so more cosmic rays -> more impacts with the atmosphere -> more cloud nuclei in the mid-atmosphere -> more clouds -> less sunshine getting through + more reflected from the earth -> lower temperatures.

The earth's orbit - though it is interesting to note that there IS 7% less radiation received - has never been discussed w/r global cooling. Particularly, this double-cycle now of the regular summer time longer distance from the sun + the eccentricity might mean this year's summer will be shorter than usual.

23 posted on 07/04/2008 9:00:30 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

the sun is only avery small part of Gaia’s ecosystem human machines and industry do so much more damage than something so insignificant as the “sun”.


24 posted on 07/04/2008 9:02:45 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: bruinbirdman

The earth’s orbit is the most circular of all the planets, which is one of those key contingencies that allow life to exist here.


25 posted on 07/04/2008 9:03:09 PM PDT by nicollo (you're freakin' out!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Interesting ... thanks..


26 posted on 07/04/2008 9:07:35 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Spirochete

Lets see, ‘at its 2nd farthest aphelion of the century’. Since this is 08 that isn’t much of a stat now is it.

Looks like some people have to much time on their hands.

Remember some AIDS stat few years back, a certain group had went from 1 ‘victim’ to 2 (or some such minutia) and the headlines screamed AIDS CASE GROUP RAISES 100%—absolutely true but a sukoshi bit misleading...


27 posted on 07/04/2008 9:13:47 PM PDT by xrmusn
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To: Gondring

LOL, did you come up with those on your own?


28 posted on 07/04/2008 9:29:13 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: bruinbirdman

Actually, the Earth and the Sun each orbit around their common barycenter (to use a neat new word, I learned on Free Republic a day or so ago).


29 posted on 07/04/2008 9:34:30 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Spirochete

... reminds of what I regard as Anthony Quinn’s greatest acting moment, as Tony Vivaldi, in LAST ACTION HERO. When the villian, Benedict, decides to make his big move, he finally responds to one of Tony’s inanities that had him muttering under his breath throughout the movie.

Tony is standing in a pool and says, something like, “What do you want me to do a three sixty?” Benedict corrects him, “... a one eighty.” Tony says, “Huh?” and Benedict explains, “If you did a three sixty, you’d turn all the way around and be going the same way as when you started.” Tony spreads his arms and thrusts out his chest as he exclaims in bewilderment, “WHAAAAAAAA?” whereupon Benedict shoots him right between the eyes.


30 posted on 07/04/2008 9:49:18 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: nicollo
The earth’s orbit is the most circular of all the planets, which is one of those key contingencies that allow life to exist here.

I believe that Venus and Neptune have orbits that are more circular than Earth's. Maybe if we got rid of all the lefties, we could reduce our eccentricity?

31 posted on 07/04/2008 10:36:45 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: dr_lew
Tony says, “Huh?” and Benedict explains, “If you did a three sixty, you’d turn all the way around and be going the same way as when you started.”

ISTR the villian called him a spaghetti-slurping wop.

I should've rephrased my inarticulate question but it doesn't matter now.

32 posted on 07/04/2008 10:48:02 PM PDT by Spirochete
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To: fwdude
"The Northern Hemisphere has more land mass in the temperate zone than the Southern, and so is spared the excessive heat by being further from the sun in Summer."

So why are there more desert areas in the Northern Hemisphere. Its 110 here today.

yitbos

33 posted on 07/04/2008 11:12:05 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Spirochete
I should've rephrased my inarticulate question but it doesn't matter now.

Hey! If you didn't read what I wrote the first time, why should I write it all over again in hopes that you might read it the second time?

In point of fact, you made exactly the same mistake as Tony Vivaldi. Live with it. Improve.

34 posted on 07/05/2008 12:12:51 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: fwdude

I think it’s safe to say that virtually no variable could have been different, without having had the effect of NO LIFE on earth. The temperature, the mass of the Earth, distance from the Sun, the composition of the earth and atmosphere, the mass and distance of the Moon, etc., etc.


35 posted on 07/05/2008 12:50:33 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: dr_lew

I saw “The Last Action Hero.” I don’t remember that scene. I don’t remember anything except that everyone’s phone number started with “555,” and the kid was unappealing and annoying (IIRC, he never made another movie).


36 posted on 07/05/2008 12:56:29 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: dr_lew
All this data! Now I have a Hair ache.
barbra ann
37 posted on 07/05/2008 1:22:24 AM PDT by barb-tex ( A prudent man (more so for a woman) foreseeth the evil and hideth him self,)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Well, only 18 other movies. Hardly ever heard from again, though.


38 posted on 07/05/2008 1:34:24 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: bruinbirdman
So why are there more desert areas in the Northern Hemisphere.

Exactly because there is more land mass in the Northern Hemisphere.

39 posted on 07/05/2008 5:33:27 AM PDT by fwdude (If marriage can mean anything, then marriage means nothing.)
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To: dr_lew
or 10466 Tropical Years

Isn't that about the time of the last ice age?

40 posted on 07/05/2008 5:40:47 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Thank God for every morning.)
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