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Dispite the anti-gun, anti-property, and anti-white remarks in the article, many of the comments at the end make the point that people are sick of being victimized by criminals, and that the laws of New York and Texas are quite different.
1 posted on 07/03/2008 5:15:19 AM PDT by marktwain
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> Texas ‘Self Defense’ Shooting - Was It Worth Two Lives?
Answer: YES, it was!!!


55 posted on 07/03/2008 6:00:07 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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But was this worth their lives?

Certain career choices carry heavier personal costs. They chose poorly.

"I didn't kill you, you did that yourself. I just carried the bullet a while..." - Capt. Malcom Reynolds. Firefly- The Message

58 posted on 07/03/2008 6:01:05 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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“Peairs was later acquitted under a Louisiana law, similar to one in Texas that allows people to shoot burglars if they feel threatened.”

“Here’s my question: If people like Horn and Peairs — who are white — can shoot people they feel threatened by, why is it that John White, a Long Island, N.Y., man — who is black — gets a jail term for defending his home when he thought a mob was coming to harm his son, which also resulted in a death.”

Had nothing to do with skin color you moron. It had to do with what you clearly already understand. TX and LA recognize the right to self-defense and NY recognizes no such right other than to call 911 and die.

Who is this race baiting jackass author?!


59 posted on 07/03/2008 6:05:41 AM PDT by woollyone (100 rounds per week totals over 5000 rounds in a year. Just thought you'd want to know.)
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Call OSHA, then the pandering for making criminal activity as acceptable labor will have standing. /cue crickets


60 posted on 07/03/2008 6:06:03 AM PDT by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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I'm not defending the two men who robbed the neighbor's home of about $2,000 in jewelry and cash.

Yes, you are.

But was this worth their lives?

They knew that there was a risk that they would be shot while committing this crime. They chose to do it anyway. Ergo, they did think it was worth their lives. Who am I to gainsay them on that point?

63 posted on 07/03/2008 6:12:11 AM PDT by steve-b (The "intelligent design" hoax is not merely anti-science; it is anti-civilization. --John Derbyshire)
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i would not shoot someone who was running away.

but having said that, if you are a crook in texas, i guess you could always decide to leave the state rather than get shot if you dont like the law. so its the crooks call, isnt it?


65 posted on 07/03/2008 6:14:21 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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Exactly, John White was unfortunate enough to live in a state governed for decades by brain-ead liberals


68 posted on 07/03/2008 6:22:29 AM PDT by chesley ( Ya can't make chick'n dumplin's outta chick'n feathers!!)
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Cry me a river, Madison Gray.


70 posted on 07/03/2008 6:27:15 AM PDT by NRA1995 (It should be called "Cosa Nostra", not "Congress")
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Here's my question: If people like Horn and Peairs -- who are white -- can shoot people they feel threatened by, why is it that John White, a Long Island, N.Y., man -- who is black -- gets a jail term for defending his home when he thought a mob was coming to harm his son, which also resulted in a death.

Because of the racist gun laws in New York.
you servile elitist idiot

72 posted on 07/03/2008 6:27:52 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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The author fails to mention that the perpetrators were illegal immigrants who were committing a felony crime. Had Horn waited for police it is likely the pair would have gotten away and probably not been apprehended. Given the history of this pair, they would have almost certainly gone on to do other crimes.

If Horn had been unarmed and confronted the two or even left his home to get a better description of the two or license number of their vehicle and been seen by them, he would have reason to fear for his life. As a grand juror on this case I would have had no problem not delivering an indictment. Justice was well served by his actions.

74 posted on 07/03/2008 6:33:18 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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“.....It takes a man to preserve life. It takes a weakling to snuff it out.....”

I wonder if he would say the same about an abortion doctor?

I do not believe that he would, but Liberals a/k/a communists never defend the innocent. But are always willing to protect the guilty.

AS far as I am concerned Joe Horn is a hero.


76 posted on 07/03/2008 6:37:23 AM PDT by sport
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I'm not defending the two men who robbed the neighbor's home of about $2,000 in jewelry and cash. But was this worth their lives? These men were not armed, and they posed no threat to Horn, although he claims that they came into his yard.

Self defense trumps burglary.
Not armed? 2 against 1 is not good odds for an old man.
No threat? How does the reporter know?

77 posted on 07/03/2008 6:40:32 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create divisiveness.)
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Texas 'Self Defense' Shooting - Was It Worth Two Lives?

The author doesn't seem to grasp that living in a republic means that it is for the citizens of Texas to answer that question - not him.

78 posted on 07/03/2008 6:42:51 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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I'm not defending the two men who robbed the neighbor's home of about $2,000 in jewelry and cash. But was this worth their lives? These men were not armed, and they posed no threat to Horn, although he claims that they came into his yard.

The operative law allows the use of deadly force to protect property. That's why the grand jury no-billed the shooter.

BUT, it also needs to be recognized that no person has any "property rights" if one cannot defend one's property (or even the neighbor's) against theft. Not all objects are replaceable - especially when it comes to jewelry, art, etc. When a burglar takes it upon himself to appropriate someone else's things, the risk of death should be just another occupational hazard IMO.

The author of this article forgets the most important thing... That the two decedents chose to burgle, deliberately risking their lives in the state of Texas for $2000 in cash plus jewelry. The shooter just delivered their past-due order.

79 posted on 07/03/2008 6:49:00 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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“These men were not armed, and they posed no threat to Horn”

This is what is bogus. Two young men versus one older person is always a threat. Anyone can be a threat to any other person at anytime. Being unarmed does not make you unable to beat someone to death just as easy as shooting or stabbing them.

If you are unarmed and confront someone who is you woke up the wrong dog.


80 posted on 07/03/2008 6:49:28 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Here's my question: If people like Horn and Peairs -- who are white -- can shoot people they feel threatened by, why is it that John White, a Long Island, N.Y., man -- who is black -- gets a jail term for defending his home when he thought a mob was coming to harm his son, which also resulted in a death.

I don't know all the details of this case but did see a quick synopsis just this morning....1) The kids weren't armed...2)the back guy made *no* attempt to call the cops even though he had a good bit of advanced warning...3) the shooter showed substantial anger and contempt...anger of a type that might suggest that he was out to get whitey for 200 years of lynchings.

81 posted on 07/03/2008 6:50:45 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The problem with the rat race is,even if you win you're still a rat.)
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Here's my question: If people like Horn and Peairs -- who are white -- can shoot people they feel threatened by, why is it that John White, a Long Island, N.Y., man -- who is black

Because Horn and Peairs live in southern states, while White lives in New York - next question?

82 posted on 07/03/2008 6:51:47 AM PDT by eclecticEel (men who believe deeply in something, even wrong, usually triumph over men who believe in nothing)
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Point blank: If you actually love your column byline, you're a punk. It takes a man to preserve reason. It takes a weakling to snuff it out.

A gun is a tool - nothing more and nothing less. So is the author of this tripe.

83 posted on 07/03/2008 6:52:43 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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***I’m not defending the two men who robbed the neighbor’s home of about $2,000 in jewelry and cash. But was this worth their lives? ***

If you are a burglar will you put YOUR life on the line to steal $2,000 in jewelry and cash?

Is stealing another man’s livelyhood which he has honestly worked for is worth giving your life for?


86 posted on 07/03/2008 6:56:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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How about a barf alert on this racist garbage.


87 posted on 07/03/2008 6:58:32 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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