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To: verga; Twink
Almost 70% of African Americans come from single parent homes, who is going to teach them?

One of the reasons we homeschool is the condescending attitude toward African Americans in the school system. (Note: I'm not saying every teacher and administrator has it, but statements like the one above reflect the general attitude.) Outside the school system, my children have not been taught to see themselves as victims. Two are still very young, but the eldest at 12 has learned a self-reliance that will carry him through life. He is largely self-taught, and he always has excelled in his studies. An increasing number of black families are opting for home education, and their children are doing well.

It is fortunate that you are wealthy enough to be able to afford, but not everyone has that luxury

It's a myth that we're all wealthy. I do know single parent families homeschooling, and most of the homeschool families I've met struggle financially. Some are very poor; some have lost everything in tragedies; some are seriously ill. But homeschooling works for them. It's not terribly expensive, unless you make it so.

155 posted on 07/01/2008 10:11:46 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes; verga

I’m all for home schooling and admire those who do. Well, those that do it well. Meaning those that do it because it’s their choice and it works well for them for whatever reason.

In our public school system, there isn’t a condescending attitude about African Americans -— where did THAT term come from anyway?...not all blacks are from Africa. Those from Jamaica make that clear. In this area, and most cities, being *African-American* gives one a distinct advantage...it’s all about the color of one’s skin rather than the content of one’s character. Or ability.

I’m way past that white guilt crap. I’m sure there are areas and people that still discriminate for whatever reason. Whatever. My grandparents came to America from Italy and Ireland. I have no interest or background in what *African-Americans* deal with nor do I care. My ancestors had their own crap to deal with yet they survived and thrived and didn’t whine about it.

If you’re homeschooling because of the condescending attitude toward “AFrican Americans” then you don’t live in the NE. Or in NJ. Come live here. Not only won’t you get a condescending attitude, you’ll get special treatment and all that.

Maybe the attitude possibly expressed in the quote you italicized has more to do with what is going on in the black community, especially our inner cities, and less to do with some perceived bias. The black community is suffering but not because of racism or discrimination by whitey. They’re suffering because LBJ’s Great Society allowed for the laziness and entitlement mindset that is prevalent today. And the community sucked it up and is playing it for everything’s it’s worth. It’s so much easier than actually working and succeeding. What other community gets what the black community gets? Call me a racist, I don’t give a f. I’m tired of all the whining by so called minorities, be them black or hispanic or women.

Suck it up and get the hell over it like the rest of us have to.

I don’t doubt that homescoolers aren’t wealthy. I live in a really affluent area. It’s just assumed that we’re all rich when we aren’t. Yeah, I’m probably more wealthy than most but we worked our asses off for it, it wasn’t given to us. And we’re far from wealthy.

I can’t imagine home schooling for some. Partly because, so many, especially those in the inner cities or other areas of distress, can barely function let alone teach their kids anything of value.

As for the other italicized quote, it may not take a lot of money but in a way it takes some money. One has to be able to support oneself and the family. I don’t know about anyone else, but I have to work at least part time, and we’re affluent according to some, rme.

Homeschooling works for some and could work for more. It doesn’t work for everyone. And there are those we wouldn’t want homeschooling their kids.


161 posted on 07/02/2008 12:13:38 AM PDT by Twink
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To: Tired of Taxes; wintertime; Amelia; SoftballMominVA; mosby
Almost 70% of African Americans come from single parent homes, who is going to teach them?

One of the reasons we homeschool is the condescending attitude toward African Americans in the school system. (Note: I'm not saying every teacher and administrator has it, but statements like the one above reflect the general attitude.) Outside the school system, my children have not been taught to see themselves as victims. Two are still very young, but the eldest at 12 has learned a self-reliance that will carry him through life. He is largely self-taught, and he always has excelled in his studies. An increasing number of black families are opting for home education, and their children are doing well.

These comments were directed to wintertime, she has failed to respond everytime I have asked her about them. I have cited this source to her and she has failed to respond.

http://www.catholicculture.org/library/view.cfm?recnum=1446 Childbearing out-of-wedlock and absence of fathers varies greatly between racial/ethnic groups.The highest rate was non-Hispanic Blacks, among whom 69.4 percent of births were out-of-wedlock. American Indians have the second highest rate at 58.7 percent, followed by Hispanics at 40.92 percent. Among non-Hispanic whites, 21.54 percent of births are out of wedlock, and Asians/Pacific islanders have the 1owest rate with 15.64 percent of births being out-of-wedlock.

This jibes with my own anecdotal evidence. I did my student teaching and taught at an inner city school for two years.

It is fortunate that you are wealthy enough to be able to afford, but not everyone has that luxury

It's a myth that we're all wealthy. I do know single parent families homeschooling, and most of the homeschool families I've met struggle financially. Some are very poor; some have lost everything in tragedies; some are seriously ill. But homeschooling works for them. It's not terribly expensive, unless you make it so.

Wintertime has run off at the mouth a number of times about how "wealthy" her family is, including several recent posts about how she and her husband are kicking in for the education of their grand kids.

Personally I think this qualifiers her as an enabler, like you said it can be done cheaply.

164 posted on 07/02/2008 4:22:34 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: Tired of Taxes
One of the reasons we homeschool is the condescending attitude toward African Americans in the school system. (Note: I'm not saying every teacher and administrator has it, but statements like the one above reflect the general attitude.) Outside the school system, my children have not been taught to see themselves as victims. Two are still very young, but the eldest at 12 has learned a self-reliance that will carry him through life. He is largely self-taught, and he always has excelled in his studies. An increasing number of black families are opting for home education, and their children are doing well.

My top students are usually African-American, and my lowest students, generally mixed between black and white...

But the breakdown of the black family (and increasingly for other ethnic groups as well) is a serious issue, both for society and for education. I don't think schools can "fix" it...I'd like to see a higher profile for Bill Cosby, Juan Williams, and other leaders who are addressing this problem, and a lower profile for those like Sharpton and Jackson who I feel are exascerbating it, but I don't control that...

171 posted on 07/02/2008 5:27:44 AM PDT by Amelia
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