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Charades reveals a universal sentence structure
New Scientist ^ | 30 June 2008 | Ewen Callaway

Posted on 07/01/2008 10:08:46 AM PDT by forkinsocket

If Kim Jong Il plays charades, his hand gestures might look just like George Bush's, a new study suggests. It seems that, regardless of the sentence structure of their native tongue, non-verbal communication is the same across the globe.

English, Spanish and many other Western languages build most basic sentences around a simple blueprint: a subject followed by a verb and object; for example, "mice eat cheese". Other languages, like Turkish and Korean, tend toward subject-object-verb construction, or "mice cheese eat".

"There's something pretty fundamental about these orders," says Susan Goldin-Meadow, a linguistic psychologist at the University of Chicago, who led the study.

Scientific charades To determine whether these differences carry over to unspoken communication, Goldin-Meadow and her colleagues asked 40 native speakers of Chinese, Turkish, English and Spanish to mime scenarios shown on a computer screen using only their hands and body.

These included a boy drinking a bottle of soda and a ship's captain swinging a pail of water.

Regardless of the order used in their native spoken language, most of the volunteers communicated with a subject-object-verb construction.

"We actually thought we were going to get gestures that just matched your speech," Goldin-Meadow says.

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: commongestures; epigraphyandlanguage; gestures; humangestures; language; sentence; signlanguage; structure
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1 posted on 07/01/2008 10:08:46 AM PDT by forkinsocket
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To: forkinsocket

New Scientist? Can’t be. I saw no references to global warming in the article about speech and hand patterns. That mag has become almost as clownish as Gore. I cancelled my subscription a while ago... since there seems to be no longer any relationship between the magazine and real science.


2 posted on 07/01/2008 10:14:45 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: forkinsocket
"mice eat cheese". . . "mice cheese eat".

Isn't that funny. Wouldn't the real question then be: Why do some languages force people to speak in a way that goes against how their brains work?

3 posted on 07/01/2008 10:17:42 AM PDT by donna (Just trying to get by without shoving.)
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To: forkinsocket

True syntactical differences exist between languages. Word order is hardly a true difference. Native speakers of Finnish make top rate database programmers, which right away should key somebody to the possibility that something is going on.


4 posted on 07/01/2008 10:22:47 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: forkinsocket

Eat cheese mice do.


5 posted on 07/01/2008 10:28:57 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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To: donna

We speak one of them. Would make an interesting study to determine the origins of subject-verb-object language ideas.


6 posted on 07/01/2008 10:29:01 AM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: donna

Which order do you think is the more natural one, the way your brain thinks?


7 posted on 07/01/2008 10:36:34 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: swain_forkbeard; Crazieman
Which order do you think is the more natural one, the way your brain thinks?

I'm so prejudiced towards English I can't think straight, LOL.

Perhaps there are other benefits to the English way that we don't know about. From mere observation, I've always thought English was a good compromise language for the best communication. I have no idea.

Which do you think is best?

8 posted on 07/01/2008 11:39:27 AM PDT by donna (Just trying to get by without shoving.)
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To: RightWhale

So, is reading Finnish similar to reading a computer program - all step-by-step and logical?


9 posted on 07/01/2008 11:44:57 AM PDT by donna (Just trying to get by without shoving.)
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To: donna

I think that how you learn to speak when very young affects how you think later, when you need to articulate complex and nuanced meaning.


10 posted on 07/01/2008 11:54:41 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: donna

Are you a database programmer?


11 posted on 07/01/2008 2:00:07 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: RightWhale

No, but when I worked in a bank mortgage loan dept. I used a report writer we called Dylacore. That was before the bank used PCs. I could run jobs using the database on the mainframe. It was great fun. I was also the user coordinator between my dept. and the bank programmers.


12 posted on 07/01/2008 2:33:07 PM PDT by donna (Just trying to get by without shoving.)
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To: donna

Were there a number of Finnish programmers around? LOL


13 posted on 07/01/2008 2:40:43 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: RightWhale
...Finnish make top rate database programmers, which right away should key somebody to the possibility that... Finnish is based on SQL?
14 posted on 11/03/2019 2:13:08 PM PST by GingisK
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