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Posted on 06/30/2008 9:54:41 AM PDT by Right Winged American
AO 62 USS Taluga-63,64,65
Courts ruled on this sometime back, that military could not have it both ways, I guess this is an attempt to exclude the Agent Orange claimants that actually didn't have boots on the ground. Of course we hauled a lot of it and i am pretty sure all those carriers we refueled while they were launching, may have been carrying some of that stuff.
I guess court challenge will be made again.
RHIP don'tca know.
FYI
I have almost zero respect for John McCains political career, his military career is a different story.
I am a “boots on the ground” Navy Vietnam Veteran. In my opinion so is John McCain and all the men who fought out of the bases in Thailand, Wake Island, Manilla, etc. and surrounding countries.
This is what happens when a President overspends the budget and orders the VA to cut costs everywhere you can. I’d bet that the men who came up with this idea never set foot in Viet Nam either. I am positive none of the politicians who will approve this never have.
Vietnam Service Medal
Awarded to all members of the United States Armed Forces serving in Vietnam and contiguous waters or airspace thereover. Members of the Armed Forces of the United States in Thailand, Laos, or Cambodia, or the airspace thereover, during eligible periods and serving in direct support of operations in Vietnam.
Vietnam Campaign Medal.
The decoration may also be awarded to any service member who, while serving outside the geographical limits of the Republic of Vietnam, provided direct combat support to the Republic of Vietnam Armed Forces for a period exceeding six months. This stipulation most often applies to members who performed Vietnam War support from Thailand and Japan. In such cases, a US service member must have been awarded either the Vietnam Service Medal or the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal (for service in a Vietnam campaign) to be eligible for the Vietnam Campaign Medal.
Do they now have to give the medals back ?
As a matter of fact it is.
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You have my sympathies. It was rhetorical, of course, but what I had in mind was that of torture the worst part is the human cruelty behind it. The lash doesn’t sting like the knowledge that a fellow human being is taking satisfaction in the infliction of it.
If McCain’s physical injuries had been caused by some unavoidable car crash instead of deliberately sadistic people, if he could have avoided learning what one human being is capable of doing to another, I think he’d have chosen that. The inanimate object doesn’t break hearts.
The 60’s rejects are spitting on the Vietnam VETERANS once again.
Vietnam Service Medal
Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal
For those who believe that this change will only apply to who was, or was not, exposed to Agent Orange: The changes proposed indicate that they are intended to apply across the board for all benefits established for Vietnam War Veterans. It is possible that those of us who went to school under the Viet. Vets G.I. Bill would have to repay those payments.
Think not? Those who were being paid Agent Orange benefits prior to 2002 were required to repay them.
Don't believe me? Look it up.
The governments of Australia and New Zeeland treat their Navy veterans the same as their Army veterans. There is a Royal Australian Navy scientific study proving that contaminating Dioxins from the 'Rainbow' herbicides, including especially Agent Orange, ran off into rivers and eventually the South China Sea. The contaminant TCDD was then ingested by Naval vessels salt water flash-distillation evaporators, where it was concentrated over months. Further, the Dioxins were made even more toxic by the copper in the distillers. This information is and has been available to the DVA, but has been, so far, ignored.
Do me a favor. Stipulating that this is a BWN Advocacy site, look at the evidence and informational links on the site, and THEN decide if I'm misleading you, or the Department of Veterans Affairs is.
bookmark while I decide what stick to wrap it around and where to put it.
These are the types that will decide who lives and who dies under Obamacare.
We should have seen his coming.
Now, the Military noun will be:
Veteran, War, SE Asia, non-Vietnam.
All I say is yea, I served from '69 to '72. Didn't go to 'Nam so don't have any right to mention the word.
Think, people. I'm sure you can figure this out. If you're on an aircraft carrier 100 miles off the coast or in a fighter at 30,000 feet, how much exposure to herbicide do you want to be presumed?
This is a clarification of a necessary but obscure regulation and anyone who wants to go to war over it has way too much time on their hands. Or an ax to grind.
This is ridiculous nonsense.
ping
Yes, my roommate is dead thanks to the VA hospital system.
As did the REMFs.....
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My inclination is to take this with a grain of salt, except to remind the bureaucrats at the VA that if you shoot at the king (or the future king), you'd better hope you hit him.