Posted on 06/30/2008 12:17:02 AM PDT by neverdem
Please no more of this garbage until we get some definitive information. I’m tired of these stories. They are just that stories.
There's something happening here. The sooner that it is found out, just what it is, the better for science.
Clearly things are going on here that aren’t understood. In addition there a number of respected scientists working on it trying to understand what is going on. It isn’t just smoke and mirrors like so many other (or should I say all the other) “free energy” claims. If it works, this energy isn’t free. It is consuming hydrogen turning it into helium. To my knowledge no one has explained where the helium is coming from in these reactions if it isn’t nuclear.
Well, to paraphrase the greens, even if it were understood today it would take 10 years to bring it online and it wouldn’t solve all our energy problems so there’s no reason to continue.
Just kidding of course. There is definitely something new here but until they get reproducible results and some explanation as to exactly what is happening we’re not likely to benefit from it. Still, the scientist who comes up with a theoretical explanation will likely win a Nobel.
I sense Luddite-ism.
I care not where “energy independance” arises from. I care ONLY that it benefits mankind!
This stuff is no more a story than Dark Matter, Dark Energy, and the Inflation Period after the Big Bang!
I am not sure this is not garbage.
Basically, uranium decay is a reality. That is if you take 10 u238 atoms, put them in a box and wait 3 billion years, 5 should have undergone radioactive decay. This happens because the interior of the nuclei are randomly changing quantum configurations until they enter into one where fission takes place.
“cold” fusion is also probably a reality. or put 20 deuterium atoms in a box, and some time later (a really long time later) some will have fused by randomly entering various quantum states and eventually by randomness, enter into the quantum solution for fusion.
a small percentage of the palladium probably happens to be the exact shape or form that when they attach to deuterium, they “solve” the quantum equations and enable fusion.
Probably most of the palladium is in the wrong shape or form and does not promote fusion. The trick will be finding the palladium that does promote fusion. Then you have the answer, now you would need to deduce the equations from the answer (sort of like Jeopardy tv show).
There is too little palladium in the world to ever have this as a useful energy source, but if you can get the “answer” from paladium catalysis, it will be a huge hint to the quantum equations you need to get to cold fusion by not using palladium.
I wish them luck.
Interesting post, thanks.
There's plenty of "definitive information". Arata's work is about as definitive as it gets, and the work by the Navy is right up there with it. It's hard to fool a track-etch dosimeter.
It's been reported with titanium, also.
http://www.newenergytimes.com/DOE1989/apx4.htm
I wish these guys luck, but I also wish that they’d stay under cover. The last thing we need is for some almost working model to be picked up by Al Gore’s band of fruitscakes and used as a new ploy. Just image cold fusion credits.
“So far the criticism has been that the experiments are not reproducible.”
If they are not reproducible, then they really cannot be considered science. It’s more like magic, with the experimenter playing the role of magician.
the Japanese appear to be ahead of us in a number of areas; whatever happened to that offer of theirs to power Alaskan native villages with small scale, clean nuclear power?
I find these articles faciating. Our models for the understanding of atomic particles are flawed, at best. after all, no one has yet come up with a good model to cover the apparent wave/particle duality evident in the classic two-slit experiment. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone, somewhere stumbles into a way to unlock power out of quantum fluctuations. After all, we use electricity every day, but we really don’t understand it except through models of its behavior.
Ignoring that some of this is reproducible, what does
reproducibility have with science, anyway?
Is weather reproducible? Earthquakes? Medicine?
Science is systematized knowledge. So weather,
geology, medicine and cold fusion all are science.
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