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To: Diocletian
"Neither I nor Tailgunner are defending the Ustashe. The desire for Croatian independence is not the same as Ustashism."

Yeah you are, Dio. Because I've asaid repeatedly, that "I had no problem with Croat independence", just the manner in which it was brought about.

Yet, you defend Tudjman's statement about "thanking God his wife was neither a Serb, nor a Jew" with the most bizarre apologetic I have ever heard. You go on about the WWII Cetniks as though "THEY were fascists" and the Ustashi weren't so bad. You defend Marko Perkovic when even Croat President Mesic said that his Zagreb concert was bad for Croatia, and he has been repeatedly banned in country after country.

But what really pisses me off is that on one hand you can say "Kosovo is Serbia" and on the other hand you jump into every Kosovo post and defend Albanians (or is it just trash Serbs?).

If "Croatia" were still being threatened or still vying for its independence, I could understand it. But it's not. Croatia is in the loving arms of its EU German protectors, and yet it still can't get over the "hate the Serbs" mentality. Makes me think that you guys are warming up for another round of "cleaning" Croatia completely of all minorities, except your Muslim friends as "honorary Croats" again.

75 posted on 06/30/2008 2:45:59 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
Yeah you are, Dio. Because I've asaid repeatedly, that "I had no problem with Croat independence", just the manner in which it was brought about.

Considering that independent Croatia was brought about as the inheritor of the SR Croatia legally and not NDH, I question your statement. Considering that the leadership of the drive for Croatian independence were all former Partisans (those that were old enough) and none of them were Ustashi, again your statement is shown to be quite silly.

Yet, you defend Tudjman's statement about "thanking God his wife was neither a Serb, nor a Jew" with the most bizarre apologetic I have ever heard.

Because that's the context in which that comment was made. Have you bothered to research that speech? If you had, you'd realize why he made that comment.

Secondly, Tudjman was a Partisan who fought the Ustashi.

You go on about the WWII Cetniks as though "THEY were fascists" and the Ustashi weren't so bad.

The Serbian Fascists were led by Dmitrije Ljotic and his Zbor party in Belgrade. The Serbian Chetnik leader of Dalmatia, Pop Momcilo Djujic, was a member of his party. He was rescued by the Nazis and was granted exile in the USA where he died in 1999. I never said all Chetniks were Fascists since most weren't...they were authoritarian royalists for the most part.

You defend Marko Perkovic when even Croat President Mesic said that his Zagreb concert was bad for Croatia, and he has been repeatedly banned in country after country.

What's wrong with defending Thompson? What's wrong with freedom of speech? Not in one song does Thompson glorify the Ustashe nor does he mention Jews nor anything. I've asked you to specifically point out in which of his songs he does. You have been unable to do so at present.

But what really pisses me off is that on one hand you can say "Kosovo is Serbia" and on the other hand you jump into every Kosovo post and defend Albanians (or is it just trash Serbs?).

It's not about defending Albanians, but rather about defending the truth. You Serbs don't need to lie since the truth is on your side when it comes to Kosovo. Yet every day I read absolute crap about how Kosovo is an "Islamic Jihadist state" when nothing could be further from the truth. Even your fellow Serb getoffmylawn knows this to be the case.

If "Croatia" were still being threatened or still vying for its independence, I could understand it. But it's not. Croatia is in the loving arms of its EU German protectors, and yet it still can't get over the "hate the Serbs" mentality. Makes me think that you guys are warming up for another round of "cleaning" Croatia completely of all minorities, except your Muslim friends as "honorary Croats" again.

I suggest you seek help for your paranoia. Serbs in Croatia are doing quite well, to the point where the v-p is a Serb. They are fully integrated and reject the false policies of the Knin separatists who were betrayed by their fellow Serbs in Belgrade.

80 posted on 06/30/2008 3:05:13 PM PDT by Diocletian
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