Posted on 06/28/2008 4:25:45 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
Here is hard, irrefutable proof that the Obama campaign is engaged in a huge deceit related to what they are claiming is a copy of his birth certificate.
Notice on Obama's official site, his birth certificate says OHBM 1.1 in the lower left corner.
The original document displayed on the Daily KOS website says OHSM 1.1 in the lower left corner.
The million dollar question is: If the Daily KOS document was supplied by a Obama campaign staffer, as was reported, then how on earth can these two documents differ?
There may be a Hawaiian state agency or department with the initials 'OHBM', but I'm not aware of any.
The agency that you request a copy of a birth certificate from is the 'Office of Health Status Monitoring', OHSM.
The genie is out of the bottle now and it's impossible to "take back" the images. They are immortalized all over the web on different sites. Anyone can see this hard proof of skullduggery for themselves.
Note: Those who keep saying this is a distraction are missing a huge point here. It directly takes aim at Obama and his credibility. A bald-faced lie has been perpetrated on the American public. As far as this issue relates to Obama being a natural born citizen, I make no claims. But there sure has to be some reason for the deceit. Who knows where the trail will lead
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Stranger and stranger
It will weirder
Strange that you told me before, weird that you could get the info - or vice versa?? I’m confused lol.
I haven’t read all of the posts, but if I had the certificate and wanted to put it on the net, I would scan it into Photoshop, crop and compress and save it as a .jpg and then post it.
That is exactly what appears to have happened. It’s real.
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Obama and his odd websites
Hiring Hillary’s lazy manager who watched soap operas everyday instead of working
Obama has incredibly poor judgement and thinks yelling “racist” will carry the day
“It’s real”
Poser: Not only is it a clearcut case of forgery, there is not a shred of evidence to support the claim that it is real.
Just saying that it is real does nothing to make it so. There are volumes of evidence showing that it is as phony as a four-dollar bill.
And, the ones who created the forgery, won’t even come forward and challenge me on this.
If pigs could fly, then maybe it might be real.
OK, it confused me because it had nothing to do with what we had been talking about. You were still thinking of Obama.
Heading to bed now.
Read the Sunday newspaper and my good book.
“Poser: Not only is it a clearcut case of forgery, there is not a shred of evidence to support the claim that it is real.
Just saying that it is real does nothing to make it so. There are volumes of evidence showing that it is as phony as a four-dollar bill.And, the ones who created the forgery, wont even come forward and challenge me on this.”
I’ve seen the evidence and the explanation. No folds? The folds are there. No seal? What do you know... It appears there is a seal. The S is a B? Baloney. It was done in Photoshop? Duh. That’s how you turn it into a JPG. African? Seems to be true. Border? Doesn’t seem out of the ordinary for current Hawaiian certificates.
Show me something to convince me it isn’t a scaned jpg of the real certificate from 2007.
PJT...
You and I both know what is there on the BC and what is going on. The creases are there and there are light remmants of the seal on the DailyKos BC.
The so called suspious hidden picture file info is there because after the BC was scanned someone put a computer generated black box over the BC # thus making it a altered jpg image from the original.
To others...
The Dailykos cert is the first one to hit the net (this cert does show fold creases and remmants of a seal)...
A day later the Obama smear site put up a lower resolution and smaller file size of the same Dailykos BC. Then the blank one showed up. Then the “I be a forgery” partial blank showed up. The last 2 were made from the lower resolution, smaller file size Obama Smear BC.
All you have to do is follow the trail like I did last night and today.
In my eyes you are a newbie and you need to quit trying to cram your thoughts down everyone’s throat here. Post your thoughts and leave others to make their own judgement from there.
What is inside the picture file means NOTHING because I already know that someone scanned the BC and added a computer generated black box over the BC number.
BTW are you sure you never used the name opendna or corvo on the net before? Some of the websites I have been to during my research in last 24 hours have you in line with opendna, that you popped up about the same time the opendna blank BC popped-up. (no that is not a question - it’s a statement)
Bless you Poser!
The Kos image, reduced to the same size as the Obama image |
The image from the Obama site |
I can't say they're different. The lettering on the Obama image is too small to make out and too messed up with JPEG artifacts.
I see the remnants of an embossed seal, but I expect a clear, unambiguous seal on a scanned document with today's technology. I also expect to see a clear, unambiguous signature block. A sheet of paper is not that thick that writing on one side is not visible as impressions from the other side.
I see a certificate with language stating that alterations invalidate the certificate, with an alteration blotting out the only traceable identifier, the certificate number.
I see artifacts of a scanning process (e.g., dirt spots, dots, dust particles, whatever), on the KOS document that are degraded on derivative documents posted on the web.
This reminds me, in a way, of all the Al Qaeda tapes of Osama bin Laden, where we hear scratchy audio tapes of bin Laden espousing this or that, but with today's technology I'd expect a hi-def video, or even a lo-tech video if one were stuck in the caves of Afghanistan. The crude audio tapes of bin Laden are like this crude facsimile of a certification of birth, when I'd expect a modern document that is beyond reproach.
-PJ
As far as the seal... it is very possible that it was a lightly embossed seal and that the cert is pressed so firmly against the scanner glass that it nearly all but disappears during the scan process. (not that it physically gets pressed flat, but that the scanner cannot pick it up because it is pressed against the scanner glass so firmly)
I have done a lot scanning of documents and many times we had to lay a heavy book on the scanner lid so that it made the clearest and crispest scan possible of the document, sometimes this would make the embossed seals less obvious on docs.
It's like this... if I had a client who's birth name and location of birth was in question. (was this not big factor in the beginning)
I would be scanning the document so that the “printed” info came out the clearest on the official document that had some form of pattern in the background. I would do this because I would know that people would be going over the document carefully looking to see if the printed info had been altered. The least of my worries would be the embossed seal.
And when the Obama BC was released what was the first thing people looked for? They looked at all the print on it to see if it had been altered, when they found no sign of that, then came the missing clear embossed seal after another HI BC was put out there.
I am not saying that the Obama BC is a fake or not, but I don't see anything that tells me it is a fake. I see the folds, I see no problems with any of the print on it, and I even see small remnants of a partial embossed seal.
Let me ask you this... do you agree that paper the HI BC’s are printed on is preprinted document paper? (as in the green basket weave is already there, the border is already there.) Then it is slipped into a laser printer and the rest of it is then printed out? Then the date stamp (M/D/Y) is done on the back with a manual date stamp and then it is manually embossed with a hand emboss seal stamp?
pretty much unlikely that it would hide it, unless of course the ink pad was nearly dried out. But you should see a something from hand signature.
Also there is still some doubt that this Obama BC is a final BC and that may be why there is no signature block stamp with a physical signature to go along with it.
Here is the paper... You can buy it printed with a border of choice in any basketweave color.
http://www.highsecuritypaper.com/4UltraSafe.html
Let's set the Wayback Machine to June 17, when I posted this post asking the same question.
This issue first appeared on FR on or around June 10, to which I made this first post on the subject. If you want to trace the history of this issue, look at my posting history and follow the different threads.
-PJ
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