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1 posted on 06/28/2008 12:02:04 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: Polarik
The better retract the staments about his ever being a Muslim as well.

Obama's website says the following:

"Barack Obama Is Not and Has Never Been a Muslim," followed by: "Obama never prayed in a mosque. He has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim."

I have a few questions for Obama's campaign and anyone inerested in researching Obama's background...which when considering him for the President of the United States, we as voters in this Republic have a de facto responsibility to do when any questions arise.

  1. Did or did not Obama recite the Islamic call to prayer from memory in an interview? Did he or did he not, in that interview refer to it as one of the most beautiful sounds at sunset? - [Reference Obama:Man of the World, March 6, 2007, Nicholas D. Kristoff, NY Times Select]

    From that article:

    “I was a little Jakarta street kid,” he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, www.nytimes.com/ontheground). He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — if he once studied the Koran with them.

    Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
  2. Do or do not many Islamics consider the recital of that prayer as a defacto part of fundamental Islamic/Muslim religious membership? [Reference The Adhan (Ilsamic call to prayer)].
    Allah is Most Great. Allah is Most Great.
    Allah is Most Great. Allah is Most Great.
    I bear witness that there is none worthy of being worshipped except Allah.
    I bear witness that there is none worthy of being worshipped except Allah.
    I bear witness that Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah.
    I bear witness that Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah.
    Come to prayer. Come to prayer.
    Come to Success. Come to Success.
    Allah is Most Great. Allah is Most Great.
    There is none worthy of being worshipped except Allah.
  3. Did or did not Obama attend, as a youth, Muslim schools and was he or was he not considered a member of the religion of his step father in Indonesia? [See notes and reference to number 1 above. Obama admits it himself.]
  4. Was or was not Obama registered in his elementary school classes as a "Muslim" requiring that he study Islamic principles and the Loran each day? [Reference Barack Obnama's Muslim childhood.]

    From that article:

    Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."

    Barack Obama's Catholic school in Jakarta.

    The Catholic school: Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press reports that "documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim" while at a Catholic school during first through third grades. Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was "listed as a Muslim on the registration form for the Catholic school." A blogger who goes by "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" found that "Barack Hussein Obama was registered under the name ‘Barry Soetoro' serial number 203 and entered the Franciscan Asisi Primary School on 1 January 1968 and sat in class 1B. … Barry's religion was listed as Islam."

    The public school: Paul Watson of the Los Angeles Times learned from Indonesians familiar with Obama when he lived in Jakarta that he "was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended."
Clearly, the record is at significant odds with Obama's campaign, and his own statements. Why?

Now, whether or not Obama considers himself Muslim now, whether or not he is willing to admit to his past and upbringing, these questions and his efforts to hide or color the truth of his background are relavent to his aspirations to be President.

If he will not even be truthful about his own upbringing, his own roots...how can we expect him to be truthful about his own stances on critical issues of the day and his ideology as regards the United States?

The answer is plain...we can't. His own shifting stances on the issues, his own willful associations for decades with virulent anti-Americans and then his attempts to hide from those associations all atest to this.

WHO IS THIS MAN?

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA


2 posted on 06/28/2008 12:05:12 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Polarik

damn, blabber mouthed women. how amI ever gonna get to be prez. with them runnin their mouths all the time?


6 posted on 06/28/2008 12:11:46 PM PDT by Waco
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8 posted on 06/28/2008 12:16:19 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©® - CTHULHU/SHOGGOTH '08 = Nothing LESS!!!)
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To: Polarik
birth certificate
10 posted on 06/28/2008 12:23:12 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Polarik
Well it wasn't there on June 24th in a cached page at Google.

 

11 posted on 06/28/2008 12:23:54 PM PDT by HawaiianGecko
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To: Polarik
Did I just lose some brain matter, or did the Obama's Fact Check website, aka "Fight the Smears," retract the "Here is his birth certificate" statement?

You are on the wrong page. Are you plugged in?

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/fightthesmearshome/

About in the middle of the page is a hotlink:

You can see his birth certificate here

14 posted on 06/28/2008 12:44:35 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Polarik

Polarik, just FYI, this afternoon I scanned both sides of an official grad school transcript that has been sitting in my file for decades.

The embossed seal was clearly visible no matter which side was scanned.


29 posted on 06/28/2008 1:08:41 PM PDT by freespirited (A Democrat is a person who lives in fear that someone, somewhere is proud to be an American.)
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To: Polarik
Senator Obama, "Is the image posted online a valid and accurate copy of your Certification of Birth, duly certified by the State of Hawaii, and did you personally request and obtain this copy and authorize others to post this image of it?"

I'm not getting it. How can a birth cert be valid with the cert number blacked out? Even if it was originally valid, blacking out the number should invalidate it.

Also, the Hawaii Vital Stats people told Texas Darlin' that they NEVER send out a cert with the number blacked out. That someone from the office in Hawaii supposedly told a reporter that the cert looks valid suggests that they are supporters anxious to make this issue go away.

32 posted on 06/28/2008 1:15:03 PM PDT by freespirited (A Democrat is a person who lives in fear that someone, somewhere is proud to be an American.)
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To: Polarik

I cannot believe that we’re still dealing with this issue. I’ve posted several requests for Obama’s camp to come forth with the certificate number, and the hospital birth records, since there are two hospitals listed for his place of birt.

Anyone else, there would be tons of paper flying to prove the person identity. NOt this guy. He gives us a piece of paper that appears to be a forgery.

Why not clear this up once and for all?


34 posted on 06/28/2008 1:17:25 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: Polarik
"BTW, I have a new post explaining the possible reasons for blacking out certificate number."

Please post those reasons on this post.

38 posted on 06/28/2008 1:39:35 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: Polarik
this writer examines the writing in detail and shows why much of the writing on obama's birth certificate was photo shopped.
44 posted on 06/28/2008 1:57:25 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Polarik
this animated gif image goes back and forth between obama's birth certificate and a real birth certificate. note the missing seal, the blacked out certificate number and the differences along the edges of the seal. in order to show detail this is a high mg download.
45 posted on 06/28/2008 1:58:29 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Polarik; expatguy; Grampa Dave; SE Mom; nikos1121; Jeff Head
On this thread?

As Obama stonewalls on uncertified birth certificate, official doubts mount

46 posted on 06/28/2008 2:01:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Polarik; Grampa Dave; SE Mom
From your Townhall Blog

UPDATE:> Here's what data officials in Hawaii have said

<> P>****************************EXCERPT*************************

All Obama would need to do to make this issue go away, is to request that Hawaii's office of Vital Records send him a properly CERTIFIED "Certificate," laser printed on the original green paper, that has no evidence of tampering or alteration.

Good Statement....

NOW WHY aren't they doing just That.....is the question...


47 posted on 06/28/2008 2:19:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Polarik
This is a google search of birth certificate obama. This story is steadily making its way up the info food chain.

This link gives the growing list of posts at free republic on obama's birth certificate.
53 posted on 06/28/2008 3:22:40 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Polarik

They still have the lie about Rush Limbaugh up on their homepage. It’s the first thing on their website. I think that pretty much discredits the whole site.


54 posted on 06/28/2008 3:40:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. Freeedooommm!!!!!!)
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To: Polarik

Careful! You will be accused of “Swift Certificating”. You know, using facts to discredit a phony?


58 posted on 06/28/2008 4:41:18 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Polarik
I posted a screenshot. Is this any different?

Was Obama's "Certificate of Birth" manufactured?

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:58:48 PM · 139 of 333
Plutarch to freespirited
The Fight the Smears site, "Paid for by Obama for America," proudly displays the fraudulent certificate. Will be interesting to see when it eventually gets taken down and the site scrubbed.

Image Hosting

64 posted on 07/01/2008 1:11:36 PM PDT by Plutarch
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