Your typical bag of tricks...
Posted on 06/27/2008 2:04:21 PM PDT by EveningStar
and you think that this is any different than scientist saying “suddenly there was life”!. How do you justify that?
This is the rhetoric of the desparate.
Yes, it was uttered by an atheist and you are foolish to believe it is a 'nice phrase'.
It is what has led you to believe that you can place the word of men above the Bible and claim that 'suppositions' have been disproved.
"You have said it yourself." Matthew 26:64 NASB
No, I just meant I didn’t think he was referring to natural phenomena that have been disproved. He was referring to Biblical events only I think.
That ends up being an argument over what constitutes "proof", with the assertion that if you didn't actually see it happen, you can't prove that it did.
Gravity is predictable and measurable according the a handy dandy equation. I am quite CAPABLE of doing math and seeing that all your planetary gravity amounts to not even one hundredth of one percent of the gravitational effect of the Sun on the Earth. But I am not capable, apparently, of living in a fantasy world where gravity pulls the Sun around the Earth while mysteriously leaving the Earth motionless.
I have always contended that if you scratch a Creationist you will find that they have equally invalid and preposterous beliefs. You are walking proof.
Geocentricism!!!!! What a laugh riot!!!!
I think I am going to bow out of this discussion now, since I have other things to do and you are not really paying attention to what I'm saying. I should not have to defend my belief in the Bible to you.
Nonetheless, that is what I think he meant.
Your typical bag of tricks...
Are you against teaching science?
And it's a bogus argument, since you are calculating the odds of life as we know it. For example, I can do the 20 coin tosses:
HHTHTTHHHTHTHHTTHTTH
The odds against that are 2^20, or 1 in 1,048,576. If you'd asked me beforehand to bet on that sequence, I'd probably decline as the odds are way against me. Yet here we are after the fact, with that one in a million result. In fact, that one result was just as likely as any other result. It is only betting on one end result that made those one in a million odds.
Recently on PBS there was a discussion that life came from space rocks that hit earth. I thought they were so cocksure it came from primordial slime.
That's the great thing about science, things change as more research is done and more knowledge comes available.
I do not understand why we just don’t bring on the debate that gives both sides adequate and fair opportunity to present their case.
That's a great idea. And the one that survives and comes into supremacy in the scientific world will be the one we teach to the kids as science. Oh wait, that's already been done.
...commonly accepted idea... more of the same...
Okay, that was cold. :)
Your statement is self-contradictory. Evolution is an emotional response to fear; a sickness, and is as far from science as darkness is from light. Those that choose to disregard the total lack of evidence to support their imaginary hiding place, or its infinite statistical improbability, are the architects of their own futile struggle.
What are they learning?
I've watched these debates, and that's what happens. The creationists are very sly, slippery suckers. I actually have to admire their ability, because they win over the crowd even though the other person is actually winning the debate.
Celebrate now, while your delusion lasts, 'cause this bill screams "unintended consequences".
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You have to be fair. Science in theology is equally a fallacy. I say go ahead, let ID into the schools, as long as we can have Dawkins and his ilk teaching Sunday school in churches.
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