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Creationist Bill Signed by Jindal
LGF ^ | June 27, 2008

Posted on 06/27/2008 2:04:21 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: tacticalogic
Your only objection seems to be that it conflicts with your religious beliefs.

No, I seriously cannot understand the basis for evolutionary thought. I have considered it, and rejected it outright.

But, I am willing to listen to a reasonable response so I can understand it. Your constant attempts to change the subject will not persuade me of anything.

261 posted on 06/28/2008 2:46:36 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: tacticalogic
That's a question for a biologist.

Are you a scientist?

262 posted on 06/28/2008 2:47:24 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: WVKayaker
Since evolutionists claim they have no start point, would you agree that the first organic form it could address was probably single-celled?

Organic forms go much simpler than cells. But if you're talking about "life" then a cell would probably be the most basic since viruses probably came later.

Right now there's still hot debate among scientists about this between those supporting heterotrophic and those supporting chemoautotrophic. But some new research looks good in attempting to reconcile it.

263 posted on 06/28/2008 2:49:36 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: WVKayaker
No, I seriously cannot understand the basis for evolutionary thought. I have considered it, and rejected it outright.

But, I am willing to listen to a reasonable response so I can understand it. Your constant attempts to change the subject will not persuade me of anything.

Since I haven't addressed "evolutionary thought", but started and remained with the subject of geology throughout the thread there is very little, if any possibility that you ever will understand, because you either don't want to or are just too stupid to grasp the concept that they are different subjects.

264 posted on 06/28/2008 2:53:13 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
...or that the physical evidence be made to comply.


265 posted on 06/28/2008 2:54:29 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: WVKayaker
Are you a scientist?

No, I'm a taxpayer who's got to help foot the bill for, among other things that involve geology and geologists, our nuclear waste storage facilities.

I didn't have a problem with you and your religion until it stuck it's nose into those decisions.

266 posted on 06/28/2008 2:57:50 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
But if you're talking about "life" then a cell would probably be the most basic since viruses probably came later.

Thank you. I only have high school biology as a background.

Next question... How would a "cell" generate, or "form" a cell wall, a nucleus, and all else needed to support itself, and be mobile? By what known ( and OBSERVED) means could this happen?

267 posted on 06/28/2008 2:58:23 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: WVKayaker

Did you have an argument to make, or are you finished?


268 posted on 06/28/2008 2:59:24 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
I didn't have a problem with you and your religion until it stuck it's nose into those decisions.

I suggest God is your problem, not me!

269 posted on 06/28/2008 2:59:25 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: WVKayaker
I suggest God is your problem, not me!

One more time, if you want to discuss theology we'll take it over to the Religion forum.

270 posted on 06/28/2008 3:01:31 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Why waste your time with me, if you’re so concerned with your tax money supporting theists. Redeem your time howling at the moon! It will change the same things...


271 posted on 06/28/2008 3:04:46 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: WVKayaker
I will allow evolution to be taught, but not as science. It would be included as one explanation among many.

At least on this we are in 100% agreement

272 posted on 06/28/2008 3:04:53 PM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: WVKayaker
Why waste your time with me,

An interesting question.

273 posted on 06/28/2008 3:07:27 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: calex59

“Now explain to me how life started on this planet, something no evo has ever been able to do”

Not quite. Possible explanations have been given,,,they just have`nt been proven.

“Abiogenesis (Greek a-bio-genesis, “non biological origins”) is a theory which contends that organisms originated from nonliving, inanimate material at some point in the very distant past. Evolutionists typically believe that this life came from a single self-replicating protocell which in turn originally came into existence through spontaneous chemical reactions.”
http://creationwiki.org/Abiogenesis

This is on the History Channel tomorrow;

“How Life Began”
http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=303042

It was on earlier in the week, but I caught only part of it. It`s a look at how life arose from non-living matter. Science does`nt deal with the supernatural. Some scientists believe in God, but for science itself, there is only one possible explanation for life. And that is Abiogenesis.


274 posted on 06/28/2008 3:13:48 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: tacticalogic

275 posted on 06/28/2008 3:16:41 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: RaceBannon

And God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.” 7 And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. 9 And God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good. 11

So, do you deny the Earth is flat? Or do you accept my narrow interpretation of the bible to be the truth and reject round world heresy?

I don’t have to accept your narrow interpretation of the Bible to believe in God. Luckily, otherwise no one could rightly call themselves a Christian and a scientist.


276 posted on 06/28/2008 3:17:19 PM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Fichori

I reject that narrow theology. And since I have the Catholic church on my side... I could really care about holy rolling baptist creationists and their backwards understanding of science.


277 posted on 06/28/2008 3:20:13 PM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: chessplayer
Some scientists believe in God, but for science itself, there is only one possible explanation for life. And that is Abiogenesis.

...or, to be phrased differently, "Something, from nothing"...

278 posted on 06/28/2008 3:21:58 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Your mileage may vary.)
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To: WVKayaker

How can a star be formed. Remember... use only observed means. None of that there high faluting fancy shmancy theory and physics.


279 posted on 06/28/2008 3:22:33 PM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Bogey78O
"I reject that narrow theology. And since I have the Catholic church on my side... I could really care about holy rolling baptist creationists and their backwards understanding of science."
Whats sad is when people believe something, not because they researched it and found it to be true, but because of religious fiat.

Perhaps those holy rolling baptist creationists have a better understanding of science because they actually evaluate the evidences instead of relying on a political edifice for an official edict.

Personally, even though I'm not a baptist, I still prefer to think for myself.
280 posted on 06/28/2008 3:35:50 PM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder.)
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