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To: Rick.Donaldson
But I have NEVER in 18 years had a virus on my linux box.

The Linux kernel has only been around since 1991, so that would make it seventeen years. And virii aren't the only things that can infest a box: worms, rootkits, back doors, and all sorts of other goodies can get in.

I have NEVER had a machine touched on my network behind a properly set up fire wall, but most importantly NEVER had a virus...

Now, that's not a function of Linux at all. That's a function of good security practice.

...and no, you can’t crack my machines.... and I doubt anyone can.

The GNU/Linux operating system and related open-source software applications are very good and significantly more secure than Windows, by default, because the operating system was designed with more of a focus on security than Windows. However, that doesn't mean it can't be broken, and thinking that it can't (or that your systems are impenetrable) is a very dangerous mindset.

Oh, and even if I could crack your boxen, I wouldn't, cause I have better things to do.

34 posted on 06/27/2008 12:55:04 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("Facts are stubborn things." –Ronald Reagan)
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To: rabscuttle385

“The GNU/Linux operating system and related open-source software applications are very good and significantly more secure than Windows, by default, because the operating system was designed with more of a focus on security than Windows. However, that doesn’t mean it can’t be broken, and thinking that it can’t (or that your systems are impenetrable) is a very dangerous mindset.”

Like with Apple’s claims of better security (which it does have), it’s not foolproof and I make the assertion that if 90% of the world’s computers were running Linux or Apple, there would still be viruses.


36 posted on 06/27/2008 12:58:30 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: rabscuttle385
I didn't say "linux". I've been using some version of linux since about 91. Before that I used... UNIX. Also, I used Apple systems, I've used MSDOS and I've use VMS. All at home.

Of those, I've never ONCE had a virus on a VMS machine or a unix/linux machine. I've written a few viruses for Apples and they worked. I've written a couple for MSDOS. I've never bothered to make one for Windows OSes. Not worth the time or effort and too easy.

Now, that's not a function of Linux at all. That's a function of good security practice.

No, kidding? LOL

Oh, and even if I could crack your boxen, I wouldn't, cause I have better things to do.

I know that, we all do, but I know people whose job it is to do just those very things :) haha so I don't need to ask for "help in breaking things", I can just point and say "go" to some folks and they will try, and get paid for it. Pretty cool stuff, and damn I sure learn a lot. :)
41 posted on 06/27/2008 1:16:51 PM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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