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1 posted on 06/26/2008 9:31:27 AM PDT by thinkingIsPresuppositional
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So much for Alex’s mousy liberal mom ...

LOL.


2 posted on 06/26/2008 9:32:43 AM PDT by mgc1122
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I can appreciate the parallels in the article....but on a personal note, I wasn’t all that impressed with 300 outside of the CGI.


3 posted on 06/26/2008 9:33:06 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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4 posted on 06/26/2008 9:34:58 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: thinkingIsPresuppositional; SunkenCiv
"The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant, that few stood against many, and before this battle was over, even a god-king can bleed."

"Immortals... we put their name to the test."

"Remember us." As simple an order as a king can give. "Remember why we died." For he did not wish tribute, nor song, nor monuments nor poems of war and valor. His wish was simple. "Remember us," he said to me. That was his hope, should any free soul come across that place, in all the countless centuries yet to be. May all our voices whisper to you from the ageless stones, "Go tell the Spartans, passerby, that here by Spartan law, we lie."
5 posted on 06/26/2008 9:41:02 AM PDT by Perdogg
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Spoiler alert? I think it’s pretty well known how the Battle of Thermopolae came out—or, at least, it damn well should be.


6 posted on 06/26/2008 9:47:48 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The article just goes to show the intellectual paucity of many American conservatives.

Sparta was no beacon of freedom defending democracy and “Western” values. It was an outpost of unrelenting totalitarianism defending it’s right to exist.

Mass surveillance, terror was an instrument of suppression, unparalleled Stalinist levels of socio-economic regulation, and a statist ideology where the purpose of the individual was nothing more than an instrument to serve the state.

I don’t know what the self proclaimed conservative lionizers of Sparta are drinking, but a place in which the government would steal children from their mothers and families to be totally indoctrinated by the state as killers (a feat that surpassed even Hitler and Stalin’s wildest dreams of social engineering) is not something most Americans would celebrate.


7 posted on 06/26/2008 9:48:44 AM PDT by cmdjing
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America shouldn’t emulate Sparta, it was as much of a totalitarian state as you could get then. Nazi Germany, with its militarism, SS, Hitler Youth and slave labor, was a lot closer to Sparta than America is.


15 posted on 06/26/2008 10:14:14 AM PDT by FFranco
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"Because only Spartan women give birth to real men."

I know some Wolverine women who might want to argue that.....

18 posted on 06/26/2008 10:17:21 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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26 posted on 06/26/2008 10:31:29 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This tagline is completely naked - STOP STARING!)
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A society based on pederasty and slavery is not my idea of Western civilization. They later took tons of money from Persia to defeat Democratic Athens in the Peloponessian War. They were incredible fighters though but no society ever tried to emulate them. They were just too extreme.


32 posted on 06/26/2008 11:13:58 AM PDT by Eternal_Bear (`)
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We’re in for one Hell of a ping!


35 posted on 06/26/2008 11:30:53 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (")
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