PROVEN: Barack Obama Presented Forged Certificate of Live Birth

Today.com ^ | 6/25/08 | Virginia Shanahan

[Jedidah]

No.

Regardless of where his mother was born, if Obama was born outside the U.S., and if his father was not a citizen, and if his mother did not meet the age and residency requirements (which she apparently did not), then he would NOT have automatic citizenship.

And if he’s not a natural-born citizen, he’s not eligible to be President, per the Constitution.

From http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know(1).html :

January 13, 1941 to December 23, 1952
“If only one parent was a U.S. citizen, that parent must have lived in the United States for at least ten years prior to your birth, and at least five of those years must have been after your parent reached the age of 16.”

[txhurl]

Google:
Results 1 - 10 of about 33,800 for obama fake birth certificate. (0.46 seconds).

Results 1 - 10 of about 69,000 for obama forgery birth certificate. (0.29 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 159,000 for obama false birth certificate. (0.28 seconds).

[txhurl]

I’m going to make a thread of your post - actually you should. It needs to be known that Obama is a Chicago thug.

You want to post it?

[Jedidah]

What if he was baptized? He could produce a baptismal certificate, and it would be just another piece of paper unless he was truly a believer. Otherwise, he could be just a wet Muslim.

[txhurl]

Important:

It the very least, we can make it into a major hypocrisy issue, since Obama:

1) had sealed divorce records of his Democrat primary opponent Blair Hull exposed, revealing accusations of wife-beating and forcing Hull out of the primary, and

2) had sealed divorce records of his Republican opponent Jack Ryan exposed, revealing accusations of want to perform public sex acts and forcing Ryan out of the general election.

It seems that Obama can't win without destroying his opponent by exposing sealed private records. So now, people want Obama's records exposed.

It the very least, we can make it into a major hypocrisy issue, since Obama:

[BlackElk]

Assuming that the arcane schemes you are citing would pass constitutional muster today (not likely), those schemes are not relevant to stopping Obamamessiahman unless a lot of conditions are met.

1. What proof have you that Hussein was born outside of US jurisdiction? That burden of proof would fall on anyone challenging his qualifications. "We think his birth certificate looks funny" is not going to stop him, particularly if the actual birth certificate is on file, appropriately date stamped and signed and a public record in Hawaii (an American territory or more likely a state when he was born).

2. Even if Hussein were born abroad (and concededly his father was a Kenyan national), his mother appears to have been a native of Kansas who was born and brought up there and later went world hopping (Peace Corps???) as a liberal without renouncing her citizenship. Is this not so? If it is so, then there is no argument and he qualifies.

3. Assuming, for the sake of argument, that we have a way to block him as one not born a natural citizen of the US, ought we not wait until he has been nominated to spring the trap???

[Jim Noble]

January 13, 1941 to December 23, 1952

Too bad Obama was born in 1961.

[BlackElk]

Proving that even a stopped clock is right twice a day (whether me or thee), we are in agreement on the irrelevancy of this nonsense about Hussein's citizenship, at least until someone comes up with some real proof. If we two are in agreement, who can stand against us?

In other news, the earth is now expected to reverse the direction in which it turns on its axis.

[Jedidah]

You are so right! Sorry, my cut-and-paste mistake.

Go to #4 at the link. It says the same thing for 1961,

[Jedidah]

No.

This isn’t about his mother renouncing or losing her citizenship. The point is that she was only 18 when he was born, too young to have met the “5 years after age 16” requirement.

I didn’t write the law, just citing it.

As you your point 3, yes. If any of this interesting speculation is true, the Republicans probably are sitting on proof till September.

Frankly, while I find this sorta fun, old Barry has more critical vulnerabilities that McCain and company should spotlight.

[aruanan]

This isn’t about his mother renouncing or losing her citizenship. The point is that she was only 18 when he was born, too young to have met the “5 years after age 16” requirement.

Only if he was born outside the U.S. and only if one of his parents was not a U.S. citizen.

[Jedidah]

Yes. That’s why all the speculation about Canada and Kenya.

It’s a long shot. He has more obvious vulnerabilities.

[aruanan]

1. What proof have you that Hussein was born outside of US jurisdiction? That burden of proof would fall on anyone challenging his qualifications. "We think his birth certificate looks funny" is not going to stop him, particularly if the actual birth certificate is on file, appropriately date stamped and signed and a public record in Hawaii (an American territory or more likely a state when he was born).

We don't know that it is on file, that it is appropriately date stamped and signed, a public record in Hawaii. For something this crucial, the only thing they provide is a faked certification of live birth.

Besides, since citizenship is required for the office, the burden of proof lies directly upon the office seeker and no one else to demonstrate that he meets the requirements. He still has not done this.

2. Even if Hussein were born abroad (and concededly his father was a Kenyan national), his mother appears to have been a native of Kansas who was born and brought up there and later went world hopping (Peace Corps???) as a liberal without renouncing her citizenship. Is this not so? If it is so, then there is no argument and he qualifies.

For the period of time in which he was born, a birth outside the U.S. to parents of whom only one was a U.S. citizen required that that parent who was a U.S. citizen have lived for at least 5 years in the U.S. after the age of 16 and prior to the birth of the child. Obama's mom gave birth to him at age 18. So, if he was born outside the U.S., he has no qualification to be a U.S. president.

[presently no screen name]

Go for it. If you can launch a torpedo into the side of the Good Ship Obama, I salute you.

It's the mindset you have - WHAT IF.. and SO WHAT. You've already made all the excuses for him - just like the MSM.

[presently no screen name]

If he’s a Christian, then there will be a certificate of baptism.

Yes, I agree - and it's only proof that he was baptized and a muslim wouldn't do that. However, biblically, we will know them (Christians) by their fruits. For starters, anyone FOR abortion is NOT a Christian. And, for him, the list can go on and on.

That's the advantage of knowing the Word of God - Obama doesn't 'get it' that true Christians know he is no Christian. Being associated with a church doesn't make one a Christian. Plus he opened his mouth - and it took away any doubt, ie. his Sermon on the Mount comment. Then add his stance on issues. For some, saying you're a Christian is for 'resume purpose only'.

[ckilmer]

this animated gif image goes back and forth between obama's birth certificate and a real birth certificate. note the missing seal, the blacked out certificate number and the differences along the edges of the seal. in order to show detail this is a high mg download.

this writer examines the writing in detail and shows why much of the writing on obama's birth certificate was photo shopped.

This is a google search of birth certificate obama. This story is steadily making its way up the info food chain.

This link gives the growing list of posts at free republic on obama's birth certificate.

[Kevmo]

Obama beat out Jack Ryan? What does Tom Clancy have to say about this? ;-)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryan_(Tom_Clancy)

Oh, and BTW, a good post, worth bumping, about how Obama gets sealed records unsealed when it suits his own politics.

[Kevmo]

I’ll have to admit the timing sounds a bit early to me for this to be a republican smear campaign. If BO gets knocked out too early, Hildebeast regains the throne and that gives me the ultra-creeps.

Take your time, folks, until after the nomination...