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To: pissant

This came from a USNA alumnus. It’ll be interesting to see how the media handle this...


Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between December 24, 1952, to November 13, 1986. Federal Law requires that the office of President requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents. This is what exempts John McCain, though he was born in the US Panama Canal Zone.

US Law very clearly states: ‘. . . If only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time of one’s birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16.’ Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen is a fact.

Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen of Hawaii being a territory), his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years- prior-to Barack Obama’s birth, but-after-age-16.

In essence, Mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, 2 years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to be a natural-born citizen. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at the time his mother would have needed to be to allow him natural citizenship from his only U.S. Citizen parent. Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen . . . but that would disqualify him from holding the office.

The Constitution clearly declares: Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, any other information does not matter because his mother is the one who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16.

Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the USA for some time frame to protect any citizenship he might have had, rather than living in Indonesia. This is very clear cut and a glaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Governor Schwarzenegger of California should be very interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a precedent. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days.


67 posted on 06/24/2008 1:28:35 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Uncle Hal

Let’s get buckhead on this. If he can bring down media “giant” Dan Rather, he can surely bring down media creation Barrack Oboma.


139 posted on 06/24/2008 1:58:10 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (PUT AN END TO ORGANIZED CRIME. ABOLISH THE I.R.S.)
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To: Uncle Hal

A person can be eligible to be president yet not a citizen. Do not confuse the constitution with the law.


140 posted on 06/24/2008 1:59:03 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Uncle Hal
If Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961, he is a U.S. citizen regardless of the citizenship status of either or both of his parents. The issue of his mother's age and length of U.S. residency at the time of his birth has arisen only in response to speculation that Obama was born outside the U.S. (e.g., Kenya).
141 posted on 06/24/2008 1:59:06 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Uncle Hal

IOW, Hillary is sitting in a room somewhere, arms clasped around her drawn up legs, rocking back and forth saying “FR ... get ‘er done, get ‘er done.”


181 posted on 06/24/2008 2:15:23 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (If it is going to take 10 years, shouldn't we get started? Drill here, drill now, pay less.)
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To: Uncle Hal

Don’t you think that the requirement for the US citizen parent to have been a US resident for five years prior to the birth of the child applies to naturalized citizens only, and not natural citizens? The portions of the law that keep getting posted basically say that no natural US citizen who is under age 21 and married to a foreigner can have natural US citizens as children. That just doesn’t make sense.


191 posted on 06/24/2008 2:22:10 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: Uncle Hal

But wasn’t Hawaii a US Territory at the time?


269 posted on 06/24/2008 3:48:04 PM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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To: Uncle Hal
I think the Governor Schwarzenegger of California should be very interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a precedent.

"Precedent" with respect to what the public will put up with. Legally, "precedent" is irrelevant. During the Clinton impeachment, there was a lot of talk about "precedent," as though the text of the Constitution was meaningless unless everything had been done before. If the Constitution requires something, there is no need of a "precedent."

499 posted on 06/25/2008 8:21:03 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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