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Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen
Israeli Insider ^ | 6/24/08 | Reuben Korvet

Posted on 06/24/2008 1:01:41 PM PDT by pissant

t is now a virtual certainty that the "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign as authentic is a photoshopped fake.

The image, purporting to come from the Hawaii Department of Health, has been the subject of intense skepticism in the blogosphere in the past two weeks.

It has become even more suspect with the revelation that variations of the certificate image were posted on the Photobucket image aggregation website -- including one listing the location of Obama's birth as Antarctica, one with the certificate supposedly issued by the government of North Korea, and another including a purported photo of baby Barack -- one of which has a "photo taken" time-stamp just two minutes before the article and accompanying image was posted on the left-wing Daily Kos blog.

That strongly suggests that Daily Kos obtained the image from Photobucket, not the State of Hawaii, the Obama family, or the Obama campaign. Photobucket is not known as a credible supplier of official vital records for any of the fifty states, and the liberties that other Photoshoppers took with the certificates confirms this.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: barackobama; birthcertificate; certifigate; dailykos; democrats; elections; nobama08; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: Non-Sequitur
You don't suppose the fact that his father wasn't a U.S. citizen and was, in fact, African might explain that?

African was the PC term that preceded Negro. Hence organizations like the African Methodist Episcopal church

481 posted on 06/25/2008 4:24:57 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Non-Sequitur

Thanks.


482 posted on 06/25/2008 4:32:27 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: AmericaUnited
This is an unexplained anomaly that needs to be answered. If you don't want to pursue this then go away and stop bothering those of us who do.

And miss out on all this entertainment?

Look, spend your time on this nonsense if you want to, I don't care. Like those who think 9/11 was a government plot or that the Navy shot down TWA800 you will all latch on to any shred, no matter how ridiculous, to try and prove your point. And at the same time loose sight of the bigger picture. And if you want to belive that I'm the blind one because I think you're all off on a wild goose chase then so be it. When if comes thinking you're all wrong on this, I'm in pretty good company.

Obama is [marginally-JR] eligible for the Presidency, he was born in the U.S.

I will state for the record that I can think of dozens, hundreds of reasons why Barak Obama should not be president. But place of birth isn't one of them.

483 posted on 06/25/2008 4:45:43 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: JerseyDvl

I’m asking all of us here to email Drudge today about the fake Birth Certificate and other things. If enough of us get the same message out..and repost it....it will catch wind. I’ve sent this to the Hillary and Daily Kos sites asking them to explain the document. I’ve sent this to Hannity, Michelle Malkin also. No response.

PLease, let’s all get this out. If the guy is who he says he is, then fine. We’ll drop it. But we owe to the people of this country to get the message out today!!!!!


484 posted on 06/25/2008 4:56:00 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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To: ccmay
Besides, it wouldn't matter if he were born in Timbuktu or the moons of Saturn; his mother is American and so he is a natural-born citizen, i.e. a citizen from birth. Pursuing this avenue is a laughable waste of time and effort.

You truly believe that or you have researched the law enough to know better?

If he was born on the Moons of Saturn or Timbukta to a Mother who was a US citizen, he is a US citizen.....

HOWEVER he is not a natural born citizen because only one of his parents was an American citizen based upon the law at the time he was born, which take precedence over the law written anytime after he was born.

485 posted on 06/25/2008 4:57:21 AM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: Grampa Dave
Some clerk made it, passed it to the Obama people. That’s my take from last night,

I said this before on a similar thread: The analysis of this document reveals that it is a cut and paste Photoshop job. That is, someone painstakingly took pieces of border design and moved them around on the page. Then they took pieces of bitmapped text from who knows where and placed them on the page...all for the purpose of faking an "official" looking document. I am a graphic artist who uses Photoshop every day. They did not do a very good job, but this is not something a secretary or clerk would routinely do to fulfill a routine request.

486 posted on 06/25/2008 5:03:41 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: pissant

I’m asking all of us here to email Drudge today about the fake Birth Certificate and other things. If enough of us get the same message out..and repost it....it will catch wind. I’ve sent this to the Hillary and Daily Kos sites asking them to explain the document. I’ve sent this to Hannity, Michelle Malkin also. No response.

PLease, let’s all get this out. If the guy is who he says he is, then fine. We’ll drop it. But we owe to the people of this country to get the message out today!!!!!


487 posted on 06/25/2008 5:07:56 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Obama, tells us truthfully, where you were born.)
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Comment #488 Removed by Moderator

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-506338/Barack-Obamas-stepmother-living-Bracknell-reveals-close-bond-—mother.html

Barack Obama’s stepmother living in Bracknell reveals the close bond with him ... and his mother

http://www.rense.com/general82/obmmm.htm

Obama ‘First Family’ Photos?

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-2,00.html

By college, Stanley had started introducing herself as Ann. She met Barack Obama Sr. in a Russian-language class. He was one of the first Africans to attend the University of Hawaii and a focus of great curiosity. He spoke at church groups and was interviewed for several local-newspaper stories.

489 posted on 06/25/2008 5:51:28 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Non-Sequitur
You blindly keep missing the issue here and it is ‘CREDIBILITY’! If any of the information on this document is false, OR EVEN if the info is dead accurate but the document itself was a self-made photoshop, it attacks Obama’s credibility big time.

Some of us can do TWO things at the same time. If you can't, then leave it to those who can.

490 posted on 06/25/2008 6:04:35 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Milligan

Excuse my ignorance but because it would be unprecedented, to my knowledge, I was curious.


491 posted on 06/25/2008 6:13:51 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: Milligan

Excuse my ignorance but because it would be unprecedented, to my knowledge, I was curious.


492 posted on 06/25/2008 6:14:09 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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To: NathanR

That’s quite a yarn. It seems a bit unlikely to me.


493 posted on 06/25/2008 6:38:36 AM PDT by devere
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To: Kevmo

Well, from what I understand of them, aren’t the Clintons famous for not doing the dirty work so to speak? I mean putting whispers in other people’s ears. If she had brought this up early on, it could have been fixed so to speak. But waiting until a last few weeks, it would blow his candidacy, she isn’t responsible for it, and she is waiting in the wings.

But then again, as another poster put it, if they were so perfect and brilliant, she would be the candidate right now. I think people feared her so much, they overestimated her.


494 posted on 06/25/2008 6:40:44 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: RetSignman

We need to get the a campaigning rule book.

The Clintons are very smart people.
Hillary does not want to show that she was involved with BO’s Birth Certificate Question. She needs her hands clean to get all of Obama followers on her side when she physically tosses Obama off the Presidential Express.

Its be easier to blame the Freepers for the mud slinging and she will come out looking like Evita.

And you have noticed Obama has put a Force Field around him from any personal attacks because he knows he has hurt many people with his political ambitions. Just ask Alice Palmer.

Why is Bill Clinton working with Obama’s campaign? Its not because he is supporting Obama. He is there to derail Obama and gather information. Bill is loyal to Hillary.

Unprecedented? You bet! This is open fist extreme fighting which will be unprecedented! Obama has no problem opening up sealed divorce records of Hull and Ryan when he ran for the US Senate office. He had no problems disqualify all his opponents in the State Senate race in 1996 by challenging all of their petition signatures. In both cases he gain political office unchallenge.

And this guy really scares me. He is not qualify to be POTUS due to his extreme inexperience.

God Help Us if he gets elected.
Batten down your hatches because it will be a bumpy ride.
His next victims are the American people. He wouldn’t hestitate to throw us under the bus.

I hope everybody here on FR understands the danger we are facing. There is a element out there trying to destroy our country and dismantle our strength.

If you love America....please protect her.
I love my country too much to allow it to fall into a third world power and Obama will do that by strengthing our enemies. I would even tolerate Hillary as president at least she would be a loyal American.

Obama is not. He has other ambitions for America. Look at the ilk he hangs around with.


495 posted on 06/25/2008 7:21:05 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: SoCalPol

I checked and you are right, only up until 1925 for passport records, but I did find the birth and death date of Obama’s mother and grandmother (and their social if that makes a difference).


496 posted on 06/25/2008 7:23:27 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: pissant

So maybe THIS is how Hillary gets back into the race. I feel certain that she’s not out of the race for ‘08 yet.


497 posted on 06/25/2008 8:12:13 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: Non-Sequitur; AmericaUnited
Like those who think 9/11 was a government plot or that the Navy shot down TWA800 you will all latch on to any shred, no matter how ridiculous, to try and prove your point.

That ridiculous huh? Gee, and we thought it was alot closer to a simple case of a fraudulent document, ala Rathergate. Silly us.

498 posted on 06/25/2008 8:18:14 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Uncle Hal
I think the Governor Schwarzenegger of California should be very interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a precedent.

"Precedent" with respect to what the public will put up with. Legally, "precedent" is irrelevant. During the Clinton impeachment, there was a lot of talk about "precedent," as though the text of the Constitution was meaningless unless everything had been done before. If the Constitution requires something, there is no need of a "precedent."

499 posted on 06/25/2008 8:21:03 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Non-Sequitur

No. When somebody runs for public office, the burden of proof that he/she is qualified is on him/her. This applies to the official qualifications—and should apply to the unofficial qualifications.


500 posted on 06/25/2008 8:22:48 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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