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Analysis: Faked birth certificate suggests Obama may not be US citizen
Israeli Insider ^ | 6/24/08 | Reuben Korvet

Posted on 06/24/2008 1:01:41 PM PDT by pissant

t is now a virtual certainty that the "birth certificate" claimed by the Barack Obama campaign as authentic is a photoshopped fake.

The image, purporting to come from the Hawaii Department of Health, has been the subject of intense skepticism in the blogosphere in the past two weeks.

It has become even more suspect with the revelation that variations of the certificate image were posted on the Photobucket image aggregation website -- including one listing the location of Obama's birth as Antarctica, one with the certificate supposedly issued by the government of North Korea, and another including a purported photo of baby Barack -- one of which has a "photo taken" time-stamp just two minutes before the article and accompanying image was posted on the left-wing Daily Kos blog.

That strongly suggests that Daily Kos obtained the image from Photobucket, not the State of Hawaii, the Obama family, or the Obama campaign. Photobucket is not known as a credible supplier of official vital records for any of the fifty states, and the liberties that other Photoshoppers took with the certificates confirms this.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: barackobama; birthcertificate; certifigate; dailykos; democrats; elections; nobama08; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: PhilDragoo

Very nice.


381 posted on 06/24/2008 6:19:41 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: yama85
I was based near Madrid and decided to get a passport. Born in NJ and my BC was in CA. So, I got a certified copy of my BC from NJ. Got a picture taken on base. Sent along a copy of my NATO card and CA drivers license. A gal on base sent the stuff to the US Embassy in Madrid.

So me and another guy got our US passports that way. We just wanted to have something to brag about with stamped passports from the Isle of Skye, Scotland to Spain. We took a month of leave. THAT was FUN.

382 posted on 06/24/2008 6:20:31 PM PDT by BobS
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To: pepperdog
What importance does the number have that the state, or city, or whoever requires it to be obliterated?

Because if anyone had the certificate #, they could request a Letter of Verification from HI, on any or all of the information being shown. Someone does not want that to happen.

383 posted on 06/24/2008 6:22:05 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited

And considering that the blackout was computer generated, there is absolutely no doubt that this is a fraudulent document.


384 posted on 06/24/2008 6:25:51 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: usmcobra; pissant; nikos1121; AmericaUnited; editor-surveyor; Grampa Dave; devolve; Jeff Head; ...

385 posted on 06/24/2008 6:27:23 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: usmcobra

The passport file caper makes me suspicious that maybe some records were altered, ala Sandy Berger.


386 posted on 06/24/2008 6:27:48 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Milligan
Okay...why can’t Obama go back to HI Vital Stat’s Department and get a better Birth Certificate so everyone can see the raised seal?

I'm sure he could, but why should he? There is nothing to be gained from his standpoint, to do so would just appear to give credence to what his campaign would prefer to dismiss as classify as crazy charges. Far better that his campaign laugh off talk about his not being a natural bown U.S. citizen as goofy conspiracy theories. And unless people can come up with some hard evidence, or any evidence at all casting doubts on his citizenship status then that response will seem entirely appropriate.

387 posted on 06/24/2008 6:29:38 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

When I have to get a job I have to follow certain procedures but Lord Obama has special channels.

If I hand in a Birth Certificate like this my employer wouldn’t except it.
It clearly states “Any Alterations Invalidate This Certificate”

The certificate number is blacked out.
Its not a Social Security Number!

Its the date you were born and a tally count how many babies were born that year.


388 posted on 06/24/2008 6:32:59 PM PDT by Milligan
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To: Non-Sequitur

It is a fake document posted on his website as legit. What more proof do you want. If Drudge picks this up, he will be up shiite creek.


389 posted on 06/24/2008 6:33:42 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Non-Sequitur; AppyPappy; Grampa Dave
"What evidence is there that Obama wasn't born in the U.S.?"

Besides the testimony of three of his close relatives, there is the fact that none of the hospitals on the island have a hospital birth certificate for him on file. This is the document from which the original official birth certificate would have been prepared. I would contain the attending physician's signature, and the foot print, along with the other pertinant data shown on the federally required tamper proof certificate shown on these threads.

Also, in 1961, his father's race would have been noted as "negro."

390 posted on 06/24/2008 6:35:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: editor-surveyor
I don't know how the law actually reads but nObama’s mother was a US citizen so if he was born in Kenya where does that leave him? I know it would leave him being a lying SOB but I mean as a citizen of which country?
391 posted on 06/24/2008 6:39:07 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: pissant
It is a fake document posted on his website as legit. What more proof do you want. If Drudge picks this up, he will be up shiite creek.

If there was anything to it Drudge would be all over it.

392 posted on 06/24/2008 6:43:57 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: awake-n-angry

Go back and read all the previous threads; you’re lacking much that has been established.


393 posted on 06/24/2008 6:49:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: Non-Sequitur

As if Drudge is an expert on forgeries? He’ll come around when enough folks contact him.

Here is another expert to go along with the many who have already declared it to be a forgery.

http://groups.msn.com/NewsAndPolitics/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=52696&LastModified=4675678645377276150.


394 posted on 06/24/2008 6:49:44 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: FFranco
Illegitimacy isn't the issue. The issue is natural born in the USA. Hamilton was born in the Caribbean and could not be President (and never ran.)

By the way, the flap over the original birth certificate is likely that Barack Obama is named Barry Dunham on the form using his single mother's last name with no mention of his father.

395 posted on 06/24/2008 6:52:22 PM PDT by masadaman
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To: editor-surveyor
Besides the testimony of three of his close relatives...

Like his mother or grandparents?

...there is the fact that none of the hospitals on the island have a hospital birth certificate for him on file.

His place of birth is given as the Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu. If that is a lie then it would be easy for that organization to disprove it. And I'd expect that they would not want to have themselves associated with a lie. Have they denied that he was born there or shown any evidence that he wasn't?

Also, in 1961, his father's race would have been noted as "negro."

You don't suppose the fact that his father wasn't a U.S. citizen and was, in fact, African might explain that?

396 posted on 06/24/2008 6:53:20 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: pissant
As if Drudge is an expert on forgeries?

Not like you, huh?

397 posted on 06/24/2008 6:54:18 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: pissant
And considering that the blackout was computer generated, there is absolutely no doubt that this is a fraudulent document.

The quality of the lettering is decidedly fishy, but I see little reason a computer blackout would be more suspicious than a mechanically-produced one. If only trusted people would have access to the original, it would be easier to have them scan the document and then black out the unwanted info than to have them obliterate the info and then scan. There would also be less danger of the info not being completely obliterated.

That the document number was obliterated is suspicious, but the method of obliteration seems entirely reasonable.

398 posted on 06/24/2008 6:55:05 PM PDT by supercat
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To: pissant

If Drudge picks this up, I send you 12 cases of fine Texas Pinot Noir.


399 posted on 06/24/2008 6:56:02 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Non-Sequitur
She was pregnant when she left. Her parents knew it. Things like that were not that uncommon to send a girl to relatives until after the baby was born.
400 posted on 06/24/2008 6:56:04 PM PDT by NathanR (Obama: More 'African' than 'American'.)
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