Posted on 06/24/2008 7:06:37 AM PDT by BufordP
 What residents were hoping they could avoid has happened in St. Charles. As feared, part of the Elm Point Levee has burst and water is rushing through right now at a rapid pace. Authorities say that the levee burst in two spots around 1:30 a.m. on Tuesday. One of those holes is reportedly the size of a football field. Several homes and businesses in the area are now flooded. Officials say that residents in that area voluntarily evacuated before the breach.
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Jesse and Al are having fits over Imus AGAIN!
Jesse and Al are having fits over Imus AGAIN!
Ahhhh—good ol’ New Town...I can only wonder what the pretentious new residents of this rich, silty, bean field neighborhood think of thier property values slashing to about of 1/5th of what they were “SOLD”. Does not common sense tell you to take a long hard look at this flat previously flooded plain and think “not a good idea”. I wonder how many people from St. Charles actually were stupid enough to buy into this opportunistic idea of a “wet” Mayberry. The Volvo and BMW crowd lined up to take a nice big mouthful from Whittaker without using that lump 3 feet above thier butts! I grew up on top of Mamelle Hills which is located up Fox Hill Rd overlooking the frequently flooded fields and almost fell off my chair when I heard that these fools were actually going to buy into a flood prone bean field neighborhood. I’ll tell you, I can hear the farmers that sold all this land -— “there truly is one born everyday”-—idiots (at best). Call the office- you won’t be in for awhile-and don’t forget to take frequent breaks while sandbagging-—fools!!!
Must be no money for them in mid-west farming country levys breaking and flooding.
Another question: where are the freeper yahoos mocking and scorning the flood victims for living in a flood zone?
I wasn’t aware that there were any. Who could possibly fault people who live in their area for years...I say it’s the politicians’ and the bureacrats’ fault...and only ours partially if we are dumb enough to trust them.
Why fault the people who bought...and not those who sold them the land without full disclosure of flooding possibility?
Were any waivers of responsibility signed?
I believe one should actually THINK before you put your personal assets at risk. This could have been a possible line of logic: 1.) There is a problematic river (if you don’t know about its past...well...you should before you buy 2.) There is a small hill called a levy protecting you from it 3.) There is no other residential neighborhoods there or planned to be there, or has ever been thought of being put there...mmmm... wonder why? 4.)It is a known flood plain regardless of what your “saleman” tells you 5.) Take some personal responsibility for yourself without always having to point your finger at someone to blame for your stupidity 6.) If you do buy, learn the back stroke!!
Look—I agree with you philosophically.
But the way things stand now - laws, regs, insurance, etc - we all end up paying for this mess!
There is a long tradition of private insurance involving itself in these things...but since the govt got into this with the National Flood Insurance Program lots don’t bother to get it.
Self insurance should be mandatory when buying real estate... and if private insurance won’t write the policy or it costs an arm and leg, too bad..find another place to live or take the consequences.
This way we all don’t get saddled with the bills!
There were plenty after Katrina. The difference being that our flood insurance payouts (the NFIP participation rate in New Orleans is the highest in the country) were repeatedly characterised on this board as government handouts to greedy crybabies.
I don't begrudge a dime of the aid headed to the flood victims upriver from us, but don't expect to hear about the NFIP paying off on many flood policies.
Where in the U.S is there no risk of natural disasters? Every region has its risks. I’ve lived in 7 states and in two of them, I’ve been in floods and luckily my homes were on high enough ground that they were not flooded out when much of the city was. In calif, there were earthquakes and wildfires. We will all have to pack into a few places to not be at risk. It costs too much to get private flood insurance for a reason. People had been farming in Grand Forks, ND for hundreds of years. Was the flood there what they all deserved for living there in the first place? We’re going to have a lot less food if every farming community in a potential flood zone has all of its people leave. Some people take unnecessary risks and do not deserve assistance when they screw up. We all have to live somewhere though and it’s getting to be a crowded place this country is.
Yes I agree, I don’t want my tax dollars going to get these fools out of their problems. It’s a great idea, but a terrible location. Why was it built there?—opportunists, greed, cheap land whatever you want to call it - the developer should be ashamed and ran out of the business. You throw enough money at something and you can get anything you want signed or passed or whatever it took to say it was safe...anybody with half a brain should know better than to pay the over-inflated prices for a plywood shack thrown together like that place. I’m curious what it will look like it 30 years when all the money is raped out of it. Slick marketing-you noice the aerial shots on their websight doesn’t show how close the river is - go figure!!
Like your remarks about New town. The people their do walk around with an attitude. As of today I believe the value of the housing stock just dropped 25 percent.
I will go down and take a look see, maybe a couple pictures .
New Town in St. Charles MO (aerial taken in 2007)
http://www.newtownatstcharles.com/Images/Aerial_2007-07.jpg
New Town at St. Charles Master Plan
New Town at St. Charles was planned as a TND and embodies the most advanced traditional town planning principles. This resulted in the design of five compact, walkable and mixed-use neighborhoods surrounding a series of lakes. Each is approximately 1.5 miles across and comprises a mix of residential and commercial uses. Each neighborhood also has a center designated as an open space reserved for public use.
The main focus of this project was the creation of lakes and canals primarily needed to contain 75 acres of storm runoff. However, these lakes quickly became the strong and indentifiable character or New Town St. Charles by providing it with a dramatic and active waterfront. Four neighborhoods will surround a dense, island-like town center neighborhood connected by greens and plazas and entirely surrounded by water.
There are four principal entrances into the site. The most direct entrance is provided from Highway B, along one of hte pipeline easements, in the form of a wide and beautiful tree-lined boulevard that becomes the main thoroughfare or central spine for the entire community, linking the different neighborhoods.
Mixed-use buildings, shops and office uses will surround a main square on the town center island which is the largest and densest part of the community. Larger blocks include interior parking lots to accommodate public parking. The main road passes directly through the town square. It is flanked by two bridges on either side, each leading to a prominent civic green and building terminating those vistas. A small harbor at the eastern edge brings the water right to the main town square in a dramatic fashion and offers wide views of the community.
The remaining four neighborhoods are generally less dense. Roads with picturesque vistas, predominantly lined with single-family homes, meander throughout. The majority of these houses are served by rear laneways, such that the entire street frontage can become a pleasant experience for pedestrians. A system of sidewalks, mid-block pedestrian paths, pocket parks and linear greens and trails connect through the neighborhoods and are planned to extend into the adjacent regional park system.
It is anticipated that several institutions will also want to participate in the development of New Town St. Charles. Such civic uses include: a school, a library, a church, a firehouse, a community building, a clubhouse and assisted senior living.
N'Awlin's ain't too danged red. And that's where the news media, including Shep Smith, decided to have their daily whine-a-thon.
Perhaps it's because these 'victims' aren't whining for a federal handout while simultaneously looting the remaining dry stock.
Please pardon my ignorance, but is the historic area of St. Charles at risk. From what I recall it was right on the river?
I found my dog along the highway in Moscow Mills when he
was a puppy.
I don’t know exactly what you’re trying to say, but I live in an earthquake zone, and I have earthquake insurance. Most people here do not. My mortgage lenders were shocked I was getting it. As far as I’m concerned, I’m being responsible to a fault, others aren’t. That doesn’t mean I don’t pitty those without flood insurance, but if you live in a flood plain & don’t have flood insurance, you’re gambling (as those who are living in an earthquake zone without insurance are).
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