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Yearning for Zion: What next for the polygamists?
The Sunday Times ^ | 06/22/2008 | Byran Appleyard

Posted on 06/21/2008 6:17:09 PM PDT by JRochelle

Six-year-old Samuel Jeffs has only one leg. On April 3 he was taken away from his home and his mother by the Texas Child Protective Services (CPS). His father, Warren Jeffs, is in prison, convicted in Utah of being an accomplice to child rape.

On May 19, Samuel’s mother, Sharon Barlow, is sitting in a San Angelo courtroom with her attorney to hear a review of Samuel’s care. She is wearing an ankle-length turquoise dress, cut roughly in the style of a 19th-century prairie housewife’s. She has reddish hair, a pointed nose, sleepy eyes and poor skin. The hair rises in a high wave from her forehead, a thin strand is plaited into a circle on top of her head, and the rest is bundled into a heavy braid. She looks unwell. It is 100F outside, but the courtroom is over-air-conditioned and freezing. Judge Barbara Walther constantly adjusts a thermostat on the wall behind her, but it seems to have no effect.

Samuel is well represented. He has his own attorney, a CPS worker and a court-appointed special advocate. This is a review hearing to check on his progress. He has the judge on his side too. She asks searching questions about his medical care. She sympathises with his handicap. The judge had polio as a child and wears callipers. Daily she hauls herself onto her dais, from which she presides over this monumental, unprecedented case. For Samuel is not the only child involved. There are another 460-plus children, all taken in one night from the Yearning for Zion (YFZ) ranch by the CPS, sheriff’s deputies and Texas Rangers. The ranch, which belongs to the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (FLDS), is near Eldorado (pronounced locally Eldoraydo), 45 miles south of here. They were being saved

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: flds; jeffs; mormonbash; polygamy; yfzranch
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1 posted on 06/21/2008 6:17:10 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: JRochelle
Six-year-old Samuel Jeffs has only one leg.

Leave him with the cultists and he'll have six wives and nine kids within a year.

Not to mention a massive account of "bleeding the beast" IE welfare fraud.

3 posted on 06/21/2008 6:24:16 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: JRochelle

That was like reading a book.

But well worth it.

Thanks for posting the article.


4 posted on 06/21/2008 6:24:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: humblegunner

No, the young men get caste off, so the old men can have sex with children.

Mormonism is such a wonderful religion! Reminds me of Islam — great deal if you are on top of the pyramid.


5 posted on 06/21/2008 6:27:32 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: humblegunner
Not to mention a massive account of "bleeding the beast" IE welfare fraud.

Bingo! Without the taxpayers, these people could not afford to support their "convictions."

What a sad article. We have a historic site in my area, the home of an important Revolutionary War figure and his family - wife and eight children, two children having been grown before the fine, stone house was built. The site has toys and games the children used in the 1770's: dolls, toy swords, balls, ring toss ... the same kinds of toys my children enjoy today. Of course they did chores - so do mine - but they also had toys, as archaeology indicates the majority of children have.

6 posted on 06/21/2008 6:34:29 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Tell me what a man will fight for, and IÂ’ll tell you what heÂ’s made of." ~ Don Feder)
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To: JRochelle
Excellent read...

These sermons are what you and I would call mad.

I suspect the author is right. However mad these people are, however outside the mainstream.... Texas needs to find a crime that doesn't appear to be persecuting their religion. Stop the child abuse and stop the legal abuse.

7 posted on 06/21/2008 6:40:06 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

ISLAMIC MORMONISM

An Irreverent Essay

The Coincidental Similarities
Between Islam and Mormonism

By

John R. Llewellyn
Copyright 2003

Excerpt:

The similarities between Islam and Mormonism may be much more than coincidence. There is a strong indication that Joseph may have studied Islam, just as he studied Masonry, Judaism and Catholicism, and incorporated bits and pieces of all four religions into Mormonism. Consider the following quote:

If the people will let us alone, we will preach the gospel in peace. But if they come on us to molest us, we will establish our religion by the sword. We will trample down our enemies and make it one gore of blood from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean. I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was “the Alcoran [Qar’an] or the Sword.” So shall it eventually be with us — “Joseph Smith or the Sword!”[17]

http://polygamybooks.com/islamic.htm


8 posted on 06/21/2008 6:41:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: JRochelle

bookmarking.

Thanks for posting this. It’s always good to see a case from a new perspective.


9 posted on 06/21/2008 6:43:30 PM PDT by LimberJim
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To: JRochelle
Crayons, doesn't like the architecture, weird science, racism smears, a man in another state already charged, puritanism as hell...

Religious persecution.

You can try to convince any of them anything you like, but they are in charge of what they are or are not convinced by, and their lives and families are theirs, not yours.

10 posted on 06/21/2008 6:43:30 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JRochelle
"law is the best weapon against religious extremism... America is in a state of becoming".

There you have it. Once they have the gubmint, they intend to outlaw beliefs they don't like. Naturally they will start with out-there wackiness. They won't stop until there is one people, one party, one state.

11 posted on 06/21/2008 6:46:47 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Fred Nerks

“There is a strong indication that Joseph may have studied Islam, just as he studied Masonry, Judaism and Catholicism, and incorporated bits and pieces of all four religions into Mormonism.”

The author is impeached by his own words - Masonry is not a religion.

It is just a fraternity.


12 posted on 06/21/2008 7:15:14 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: patton

“The author is impeached by his own words - Masonry is not a religion.”

If the author had said ‘groups’ instead of ‘religions’, would it then be true?


13 posted on 06/21/2008 7:37:38 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I reserve the right to misinterpret the comments of any and all pesters)
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To: JRochelle
"Singular links this point to the failure of force in the war on terror. Just as in Iraq and at Guantanamo, the law has been abused. Due process works; force doesn’t..."

"...making them incapable of handling the outside world other than with suspicion, their heads full of nonsensical science, racism and sexism so extreme as to defy belief?"

Is there any kind of twelve step program for liberalism?

Cordially,

14 posted on 06/21/2008 8:06:01 PM PDT by Diamond
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To: JRochelle

The writing is very good. The story is very compelling. The writer has done a good job of maintaining a somewhat unbiased perspective in order to tell the story without choosing sides. But his liberal bias leaks through, anyway (terrorism, that cancer on civilization which festered in places like Iraq — Salman Pak — and spread world-wide, will not be defeated through ‘due process’). But thanks for the ping, it was a good read!


15 posted on 06/21/2008 8:18:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Diamond
And in answer to your question, Sir, liberalism is a disease in need of eradication, but sadly there is no antibiotic which can do the job and it's too far along for surgery to remove it.

The People ceased to exercise their responsibilities as sovereigns of this nation when they were taken with bread and circuses ... once the bloody epidemic is ended which is to come, perhaps an America can arise from the ashes of the holocaust if Islam has not won the war. Democrat will be a nasty word in that day and the names of people like Harry Reid, Tom Harkin, Ted Kennedy, Granholm, Sebelius, and Barbara Boxer will be cuss words, names to be avoided when naming your children since these ghouls were the defenders and promoters of a holocaust against alive unborn meant to empower the democrat party. The disease necessary to maintain such an evil work has spread to other facets of American society and this metastasizing is killing the patient/nation.

16 posted on 06/21/2008 8:32:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: patton
The author is impeached by his own words - Masonry is not a religion.

and neither is islam.

17 posted on 06/21/2008 8:49:31 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Drango; Chieftain

People who “hide” behind “so called religion “are the most vile. It is truly sacrileges to use religion and God and Jesus to continue with their child molesting,and abuse.
These people sure didn’t mind “the government and the state” when they were taking welfare money!

Now all of a sudden, they cry “discrimination and persecution by THE STATE”. Anyone can be as “mad “ as they want to be, up until they hurt others. Jeffs and his men committ horrible crimes and use Jesus Christ as their rationale. This group is about as religious as the Manson group was. Only difference is they have the nerve to call themselves Christian!


18 posted on 06/21/2008 9:34:00 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Well said!


19 posted on 06/21/2008 9:41:36 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; Saundra Duffy

And yet mormon apologists at FR work hard to defend this cult.


20 posted on 06/21/2008 9:48:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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