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Bond Insurers Inflict Further Pain on the Market
WSJ ^ | 06/21/08 | Liz Rappaport and Serena Ng

Posted on 06/20/2008 11:31:12 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Bond Insurers Inflict Further Pain on the Market

By Liz Rappaport and Serena Ng

The long-anticipated credit-rating downgrades of the nation's big bond insurers are pressuring financial markets, perhaps worse than expected.

On Thursday afternoon, MBIA Inc. and Ambac Financial Group Inc., which together guarantee more than $1 trillion in debt, lost their triple-A financial-strength ratings from Moody's Investors Service.

Moody's, which lowered MBIA's rating by five notches and Ambac's by three, was the last of the three major rating firms to cut those ratings. Fitch Ratings and Standard & Poor's did so earlier this year.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ambac; downgrade; mbia; monoline

1 posted on 06/20/2008 11:31:13 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Uncle Ike; RSmithOpt; jiggyboy; 2banana; Travis McGee; OwenKellogg; 31R1O; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/20/2008 11:32:59 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The poop on the lowering bond insurer ratings was something like this:

If the insurers are rated at less than AAA, none of the bonds they insure can be AAA.

This leads to a lowering of the rating of all bonds they insure.

All mutual funds whose prospectus limits them to only AAA bonds will have to sell them.

Is this scenario correct?

yitbos

3 posted on 06/21/2008 12:06:05 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

Bond holders can insure with a new company to preserve their AAA rating.


4 posted on 06/21/2008 12:16:41 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Is the scenario correct?

I think the price of AAA bond insurance just went up.

Who are the AAAs. Seems like they would be a good investment. Until, Moody's gets around to re-rating them, too.

yitbos

5 posted on 06/21/2008 12:23:54 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Southack

This doesn’t sound good to me. Will further bring down the economy. I see a domino effect starting. First the mortgage market, next the credit card market, the bond ratings take a dive, oil prices and food prices rise, the Fed may raise interest rates because of inflation due to the high oil prices, what’s next?


6 posted on 06/21/2008 12:27:24 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Hey Obama, to quote your Preacher man, your "chickens have come home to roost")
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To: flaglady47
what’s next?

President Obama.

7 posted on 06/21/2008 1:22:18 AM PDT by Joe Miner
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To: Southack

What new company?


8 posted on 06/21/2008 2:55:43 AM PDT by dennisw (We have an idiocracy not a democracy)
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To: Joe Miner

And four years after that (if not sooner!), we have a massive voter revolt as people realize President Obama is President Carter all over again (only worse!) and will elect a President and Congress that will finally enact massive reforms to get our economy back on track—starting with the biggest overhaul in our tax system since the 16th Amendment was passed.


9 posted on 06/21/2008 7:00:19 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: flaglady47

Not in the good ol’ U.S. of A. We’re “special”. We can spend ourselves into oblivion, spread Empire (and our job base) around the world, develop huge popcorn fart-based financial markets, and nothing but sunshine and roses will come of it.


10 posted on 06/21/2008 7:31:30 AM PDT by Wolfie
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