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McCain promotes NAFTA in Canadian trip
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 6/20/08 | Jeff Mason

Posted on 06/20/2008 6:51:09 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Republican John McCain defended the North American Free Trade Agreement in Canada on Friday during an unusual foreign trip as a U.S. presidential candidate to draw a contrast with Barack Obama, his Democratic rival in the November election.

McCain, an Arizona senator who has wrapped up his party's White House nomination, said the trip was not a political one and declined to mention Obama by name during remarks before a group of Canadian business leaders and policy makers.

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Trade is one of several issues that has come to the forefront of the U.S. presidential campaign as Americans worry about the sluggish U.S. economy and rising fuel costs.

Obama appeared to back away somewhat from his earlier remarks in an interview with Fortune magazine released this week. "Sometimes during campaigns the rhetoric gets overheated and amplified," he said in the interview. "I'm not a big believer in doing things unilaterally."

"I believe in free trade. I think that all countries can prosper as a consequence of free trade," Obama told reporters in Jacksonville, Florida on Friday, adding he also thought the United States could be a better negotiator on behalf of American workers and for environmental standards.

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McCain called for Canada and the United States to more closely align their energy policies. Canada is a top U.S. energy supplier.

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He repeated his desire to close the Guantanamo Bay prison facility and said he would forge a foreign policy as president that paid attention to allies' opinions.

"I intend as well to listen carefully when close allies offer their counsel," he said. "Even when they don't volunteer their advice, I'll ask for it and I'll seek it out."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canadian; globaloney; mccain; nafta; promotes; rino
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1 posted on 06/20/2008 6:51:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

This stuff sickens me. Why in hell does an American Presidential candidate waste his time going to Canada? Why do both candidates accept foreign monies for their campaigns?

The Presidency of the US of A is NOT an international matter - never has been and never should be. One more reason to venture in this election with trepidation and hold ALLL options open.


2 posted on 06/20/2008 6:57:01 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Good. Obama’s wrong on this... The US constitutes 74% of Canada’s imports, and 86% of their exports. And we are their number 1 consumer of energy. Strengthening trade ties with Canada is a great positive all around.


3 posted on 06/20/2008 6:57:24 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: NormsRevenge
Free trade will be great as soon as Mexico adopts OSHA and all of our pollution control.

That would be fair trade.
4 posted on 06/20/2008 7:12:56 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Buy a clue - read post # 3


5 posted on 06/20/2008 7:22:07 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a large number of electrons were terrible agitated)
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To: maine-iac7

I understand this. My question still stands - why don’t people see this and go ‘huh?’ Next stop, Europe, China and generous points elsewhere. Why not have the entire world elect our President?


6 posted on 06/20/2008 7:27:46 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I went to Alberta on business last year.

Canada has a motherload of oil, and culturally is the the closest thing on this planet to America.

While there may be parts of Canada which are soft, the oil sand of Alberta may be the last place for rugged individualism in North America.

Let's face it. There have been only two sports teams named "Oilers". The Houston Texas NFL team, and the Edmonton Alberta NHL team.

Plus, Alberta is the new focal point in the battle for free speech in the Anglosphere. The Western Standard was published in Alberta.

I really think Alberta in the first decade of the 21st century in a watershed like California was in the 1960s.

In the world scene, Canada matters.

7 posted on 06/20/2008 7:42:56 PM PDT by magellan
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To: magellan

“I really think Alberta in the first decade of the 21st century in a watershed like California was in the 1960s.”

California was a big loss for truth, justice and the American way.


8 posted on 06/20/2008 7:47:53 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

He’s not going to Canada to court dollars or votes, but to symbolically express his support for free trade with that country, and show he can be a statesman.

For better or worse, Canada and the US are heavily dependent on each other. The closer our executive or potential executives can bring our nations together economically the better BOTH are.

Personally, I like this move. It reinforces his commitment to free trade with Canada, and by saying in Canada to Canadians it’ll carry a bit more weight, too.


9 posted on 06/20/2008 10:59:51 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

More globalist pandering from you? Enough already.


10 posted on 06/21/2008 12:06:03 AM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: endthematrix

Pandering? Because I want to see us maintain a relationship with our neighbor that is good for the US?

Do you know we import more oil from Canada than any other country? Do you know they are our number 1 export market? Is it pandering to reinforce that relationship?

Let me guess - you support either Ron Paul or Pat Buchanan.


11 posted on 06/21/2008 12:33:20 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Relationship is one thing. That's why we HAD ambassadors and a competent Congress. Hemispheric integration is another. Now we have a globalist cabal running trade issues. Canada, Canada, Canada. I understand our relationship, but she's only 1/3 of the trilateral bureaucracy. We're obligated to tow not-so-developed sibling(s) into the mix - with US tax dollars.

"Let me guess"

Because advocation of independece in foreign affairs you must be a kook or fringe isolationist? You can play better than that.

12 posted on 06/21/2008 12:49:05 AM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: endthematrix

Independece?


13 posted on 06/21/2008 12:49:55 AM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Name me a successful town in the United States that is booming with no jobs, or low paying jobs? Perhaps you like that but its not a good idea. I understand its good for the companies, but not good for the United States.


14 posted on 06/21/2008 3:14:32 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

Can you rephrase that question?


15 posted on 06/21/2008 5:48:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: endthematrix; Sprite518

So you think stopping free trade is good, we shouldn’t work to keep free trade (and is IS bidirectional - no tariffs into Canada, no tariffs from Canada).

Let’s go ahead and put tariffs on the oil we import from Canada (which is more than from Saudi Arabia, or Mexico, or Venezuela). Great for our economy and consumer to pay even more for oil right now.

Let’s go ahead and put tariffs on the lumber we buy from them (they are one of our largest suppliers of finished lumber). Heck, the housing market won’t mind another 5-7% increase in the price of finished plywood, OSB, or dimensional lumber.

Let’s go ahead and have them put tariffs on cars, as they are our number one market for automotive exports. I’m sure the factory line workers in Detroit and Dearborn won’t mind losing even more sales as the price of cars in Canada jump another 10%.

Sure, that’s all fine...

Look, some countries you don’t want to have free trade with. No problem. But Canada? CANADA? Not only our neighbor, but an excellent trade partner, and one who is more aligned with our interests - foreign AND domestic - than any other nation? One with whom we have true and open free trade?

If anyone should get free trade, it would be Canada. The fact Obama is talking about changing it shows just how out of touch he is with economic realities, and the true state of international affairs.

Other than paranoid delusion about some shadowy government trying to create an NAU and the Amero, what is the downside to free trade with Canada? Because I just listed a bunch of upsides.

Oh, and endthematrix - independence of foreign affairs? So now trade with a foreign nation is being dependent on others? Was not the US started - and flourished - as a trade culture? Were we not looking for freedom - economic freedom - to export and trade as we desired, without excess taxation?

Learn a little history about the country. We were founded on the principles of economic freedom and trade. That’s what we’re about.

Show me one country that’s flourishing on independence from trade. Just one. Then I’ll concede your point.


16 posted on 06/21/2008 7:41:27 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: Sprite518

Oh, and I think you want to ask me to name a city that is thriving on service-industry type jobs, not “high skilled” manufacturing jobs, right?

Las Vegas, Nevada.
Palm Springs, California.
Redmond, Washington.
Charlotte, North Carolina.
Scottsdale, Arizona.

Need I go on?

So it is your opinion that we should be 100% self-supporting, totally independent of other countries, right?

How do we get neodymium magnets, or samarium, or alnico magnets (all used in MILITARY applications, as well as consumer). Cobalt really isn’t here in the US. We need it from overseas.

How do we get all the oil we need RIGHT NOW (knowing that we import 13 million barrels a day)? Give us 15 years we may be able to get our own domestic production to that level, but what about the intervening 15 years?

Like fruit? I hope you don’t want any from September to March. You know, grapes, bananas, peaches, pineapples, and the like.

And cars, I’m sure you don’t mind paying 30% more for your cars since the price of steel will escalate.

Not to mention seeing the price of those artificial hips, surgical implants and tools jump 50X since titanium deposits are overseas. And the military and aerospace industries will be shut down because they are critically dependent on this material.

Oh, and good luck with batteries - back to lead acid! No more nickel metal hydride, because we can’t even get the nickel from Canada, who has most of the reserves in the world, and we have almost none.

Want some more examples? Because so far I’ve shut down the military, the aerospace industry, the automotive industry, the economy in general, hampered medical, and decimated our food supply. I guess there’s still religion and textiles to be destroyed...

Yes, we can be independent on some things, but on everything? Are you serious?


17 posted on 06/21/2008 7:54:29 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
LOL! You are kidding right??? You sound like all you do is parrot what you have heard instead of doing your own research.

Las Vegas, Nevada (Casino Capital of the US maybe the world? Have you ever been there. There are plenty of jobs)

Palm Springs, California (29 Palms... A huge Marine Corps Training Facility). Close to L.A. (Second largest city in the country. Yeah no jobs... LOL!)

Redmond, Washington. (Home of Microsoft. Need I say anymore?)

Charlotte, North Carolina. (Banking Capital of the United States. Yeah no jobs too...LOL!)

Scottsdale, Arizona (Rich man's playground...Yeah no real jobs).

When did I ever say we should not trade? We traded pre NAFTA, GATT, etc....... The problem is the greedy pigs that are not happy with 10 cars they need more. $5 an hour is too much for them. They want slave wage, and because we now by cheap $hit from Mexico and China. We get things (that we never had to worry about before) like salmonella in Tomatoes or lead in the Toys. Oh and China (are so called friends) do not have the same business rules as they do over here. So companies like Home Depot and McDonald's are getting a quick lesson about Chinese business. For instance, you can have McDonald's on one side of the road, and say McWong across the street. McWong’s can sell everything that is on McDonald's menu for a lower price (because that is what free trade is all about right???) and that is not considered in China illegal like it would be here in the USA.

Furthermore, since were talking about the China. Since free trade is so wonderful. Why don't we trade our all of our American Servicemen for Chinese. All you have to is give them a bag of rice a day, and that is a whole lot cheaper than what we have now? Yeah free trade is great! LOL!

18 posted on 06/21/2008 5:19:20 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

I am still waiting for you to name me a successful town that is booming with no jobs. So far the 5 cities you listed have jobs. I am still waiting...


19 posted on 06/21/2008 5:21:50 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518
Furthermore, since were talking about the China.

You need to learn to read better... What was the title of this thead? Oh yeah:

McCain promotes NAFTA in Canadian trip

Yep, no China in there, and as far as I can figure out, NAFTA stands for North American Free Trade Agreement, and China's not quite in North America now, is it?

So you're going to slam McCain for promoting free trade with Canada because you have a beef with China. Well, isn't that special!

20 posted on 06/21/2008 6:10:54 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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