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Dr. Nitschke, who heads the assisted suicide organization, Exit International, also said the ruling sends a "dreadful message" to Alzheimer's patients, and urged those suffering from the disease to avoid a doctor's diagnosis and seek assisted suicide as quick as possible in order to protect one's family from similar legal battles.

"Don't go to your doctor. Don't have the tests done. And if you do have the tests done that show that you're starting to lose mental capacity, make sure it is not recorded," said the doctor, indicating that those who contact Exit International would be receiving the same message.

He doesn't even want the person to know if there is something wrong with them, he just wants them dead.

1 posted on 06/20/2008 4:17:04 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 06/20/2008 4:17:52 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The culture of death is no longer even trying to hide their bloodlust.


3 posted on 06/20/2008 4:19:16 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 06/20/2008 4:20:07 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Modern day vampires.


5 posted on 06/20/2008 4:20:11 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: wagglebee

Alzheimer’s-like symptoms in the elderly can be caused by something as simple as a vitamin or mineral deficiency, or by a reaction to medication for other conditions.

I hesitate to say that the best thing for everyone would be for Dr. Nitschke to have (for example) a fatal car accident tomorrow, because surely Hell is waiting for him, but ...


10 posted on 06/20/2008 4:27:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (The dragons aren't as hungry as they were yesterday. Has anyone seen James?)
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To: wagglebee
Dr. Nitschke, however, opposed the jury's decision, saying, "Many people said this person [Wylie] knew what he was doing. I thought he knew what he was doing. Yet they base it on the medical evidence that he had lost his ability to make a decision, that he had lost his ability to say whether he could die or not."

OMG!!!! A jury based their decision on the evidence? What is we gonna do?

Þ

11 posted on 06/20/2008 4:36:36 PM PDT by BykrBayb (www.lifeforlauren.org Þ)
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To: wagglebee

Just call this guy Dr.Quack.

I would hate to have him for my doctor.


13 posted on 06/20/2008 4:44:29 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: wagglebee

Proof that the religion of Evolution creates a person who does not value life and has no belief in God.


14 posted on 06/20/2008 4:49:35 PM PDT by LetTruthBeTold (The strands of information that make up evolution are easily unraveled)
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To: wagglebee
in favour of seeking a doctor who can help them commit suicide as quickly as possible

Gee Dr. Nitschke, if you or your doctor friends really want to kill yourselves, go right ahead...

16 posted on 06/20/2008 4:58:20 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: wagglebee
Hippocratic Oath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath

...I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.
To please no one will I prescribe a deadly drug nor give advice which may cause his death.
Nor will I give a woman a pessary to procure abortion.
But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts....

A Physician who Purposefully causes a Death
by his/her Direct, or Indirect Action
Is an Abomination

They have cast down the
Mantle of Authority and Benign Intent
they have been entrusted with.

18 posted on 06/20/2008 5:25:50 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: wagglebee

whatever happened to “First do no harm?”


19 posted on 06/20/2008 5:31:01 PM PDT by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (I'd rather be a conservative nut job than a liberal with no nuts and no job)
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To: wagglebee
From The Book of Medicines (Sefer ha-Refuot)
The first Hebrew Medical Oath discovered...
The Oath of Asaph and Yohanan
...
http://www1.umn.edu/phrm/oaths/oath5.html

This is the pact which Asaph ben Berakhyahu and Yohanan ben Zabda made with their pupils, and they adjured them with the following words:

Do not attempt to kill any soul by means of a potion of herbs,
Do not make a woman [who is] pregnant [as a result of] of whoring take a drink with a view to causing abortion,
Do not covet beauty of form in women with a view to fornicating with them,
Do not divulge the secret of a man who has trusted you,
Do not take any reward [which may be offered in order to induce you] to destroy and to ruin,
Do not harden your heart [and turn it away] from pitying the poor and healing the needy,
Do not say of [what is] good; it is bad, nor of [what is] bad: it is good,
Do not adopt the ways of the sorcerers using [as they do] charms, augury and sorcery in order to separate a man from the wife of his bosom or a woman from the companion of her youth,
You shall not covet any wealth or reward [which may be offered in order to induce you] to help in a lustful desire,
You shall not seek help in any idolatrous [worship] so as to heal through [a recourse to idols], and you shall not heal with anything [pertaining] to their worship,
But on the contrary detest and abhor and hate all those who worship them, put their trust in them, and give assurance [referring] to them,
For they are all naught, useless, for they are nothing, demons, spirits of the dead; they cannot help their own corpses, how then could they help those who live?
Now [then] put your trust in the Lord, your God, [who is] a true God, a living God,
For [it is] He who kills and makes alive, who wounds and heals,
Who teaches men knowledge and also to profit,
Who wounds with justice and righteousness, and who heals with pity and compassion,
No designs of [His] sagacity are beyond His [power]
And nothing is hidden from His eyes.

20 posted on 06/20/2008 5:47:10 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: wagglebee
And the Hindu Physician's Oath
Vaidya’s Oath

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_the_Hindu_physician

The oath of the Hindu physician, also known as the Vaidya’s Oath, was an oath taken by Hindu physicians. It is dated from the 15th century BCE and requires physicians not to eat meat, drink, or commit adultery. Similar to the Hippocratic Oath, the Vaidya’s Oath entreats physicians not to harm their patients and be solely devoted to their care, even if this put their lives in danger.

21 posted on 06/20/2008 5:51:37 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: wagglebee

They do have a point, unrelated to euthanasia.

If you or a relative suspect loss of mental capacity, it is imperative that they get their legal and financial house in order immediately. Because once that diagnosis has been made, every legal action they make after can be challenged on grounds of competency. And not just by family members, but by outsiders.

This means that they need their will made out, any family trusts that have to be created or have their chain of inheritance verified. Assets that could be protected must be.

Family need to be on the sign in sheet, sharing ownership for safety deposit boxes. Bank and checking accounts should be in two names. Credit cards secured.

Debts have to be accounted for, as well as reoccurring debts.

Powers of attorney need to be obtained ASAP.

And THEN see the doctor.

The assumption has to be that there is at least a chance that some hostile interest will try and get control over the person, their estate, their insurance, etc., using a diagnosis of mental incapacity to treacherous advantage.

And remember, if you do have a living will entrusted to relatives, it doesn’t mean that they have to let others know about it, if it is in your best interests.

Conversely, if some hospital tries to seize control of a patient, a living will can be used to take the patient to a different hospital, especially if the hospital intended to kill them.

A living will could save their life.


22 posted on 06/20/2008 5:53:56 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: wagglebee
And a Japanese Physician Oath
Seventeen Rules of Enjuin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_Rules_of_Enjuin

...In our school, teaching about poisons is prohibited, nor should you receive instructions about poisons from other physicians. Moreover, you should not give abortives to the people.
You should rescue even such patients as you dislike or hate. You should do virtuous acts, but in such a way that they do not become known to people. To do good deeds secretly is a mark of virtue.
You should not exhibit avarice and you must not strain to become famous. You should not rebuke or reprove a patient, even if he does not present you with money or goods in gratitude....

23 posted on 06/20/2008 5:57:08 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: wagglebee

This is a scientific breakthrough...not only have they discovered the cure for Alzheimer’s, but every other disease and ailment as well. /s


24 posted on 06/20/2008 5:58:28 PM PDT by Xenophon450 (I guess I'll never know, some things under the sun can never be understood...)
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To: wagglebee
Alzheimer's is a horrible disease that makes the family suffer just as much or maybe more than the person suffering from the disease. My grandmother was diagnosed with Alzheimer's about ten years ago. My father had a real hard time because he felt guilty about putting her in a convalescent home. For five years he spent all his time outside of work taking care of her but he couldn't continue without the help of his three sisters who were nurses. Eventually he had to come to grips with putting her in the nursing home but it cost him his relationship with his sisters. It's sad because my grandmother would be heartbroken to know that her illness caused a rift between her children. I don't know if my father will ever forgive his sisters because they wouldn't even try to keep their mother out of a nursing home. I think my father waited a little too long and his sisters refused to wait long enough.
25 posted on 06/20/2008 6:08:39 PM PDT by peeps36 ( Al Gore Is A Big Fat Lying Hypocrite. He Pollutes The Air By Opening His Big Mouth)
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To: wagglebee

Why doesn’t he practice what he preaches!


30 posted on 06/20/2008 6:44:13 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: wagglebee
What makes me want to vomit is that a vit B-12 deficiency can impair mental ability terribly. People need to be evaluated if they have a problem. Many times there *is* a solution.

I had a vit B-1 deficiency and thought I was dying. I prayed to G-d to help me finish raising my children. In all ways; memory, vocabulary, problem-solving; I was loosing it. After I started the shots I had a new life.

My mother was deficient in B-12. She was ready to commit suicide from the depression alone. She felt like a terrible burden. A month of shots later and she was ready to fight again.

Something as simple as Celiac Disease or IBD can deplete your body of nutrients and put you into a downward spiral.

Don't give up so easily on life. It's hard-won and shouldn't be thrown away.

32 posted on 06/20/2008 11:11:09 PM PDT by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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Guess what? Science is in the process of unlocking the key to dissolving those nasty proteins that make goo in the brain and kill brain cells. If they figure out a way to stop those nasty proteins, there’s a potential cure or Alzheimer’s.


38 posted on 06/23/2008 11:33:26 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( LAUREN (Delaware) & Karen (Fl) www.lifeforlauren.org & www.prayforkaren.com)
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