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Was the Holocaust Inevitable? ( Patrick J. Buchanan )
townhall.com ^ | June 20, 2008 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 06/20/2008 8:12:50 AM PDT by kellynla

So asks Newsweek's cover, which features a full-length photo of the prime minister his people voted the greatest Briton of them all.

Quite a tribute, when one realizes Churchill's career coincides with the collapse of the British empire and the fall of his nation from world pre-eminence to third-rate power.

That the Newsweek cover was sparked by my book "Churchill, Hitler and The Unnecessary War" seems apparent, as one of the three essays, by Christopher Hitchens, was a scathing review. Though in places complimentary, Hitchens charmingly concludes: This book "stinks."

Understandable. No Brit can easily concede my central thesis: The Brits kicked away their empire. Through colossal blunders, Britain twice declared war on a Germany that had not attacked her and did not want war with her, fought for 10 bloody years and lost it all.

Unable to face the truth, Hitchens seeks solace in old myths.

We had to stop Prussian militarism in 1914, says Hitchens. "The Kaiser's policy shows that Germany was looking for a chance for war all over the globe."

Nonsense. If the Kaiser were looking for a war he would have found it. But in 1914, he had been in power for 25 years, was deep into middle age but had never fought a war nor seen a battle.

From Waterloo to World War I, Prussia fought three wars, all in one seven-year period, 1864 to 1871. Out of these wars, she acquired two duchies, Schleswig and Holstein, and two provinces, Alsace and Lorraine. By 1914, Germany had not fought a war in two generations.

Does that sound like a nation out to conquer the world?

As for the Kaiser's bellicose support for the Boers, his igniting the Agadir crisis in 1905, his building of a great fleet, his seeking of colonies in Africa, he was only aping the British, whose approbation and friendship he desperately sought all his life and was ever denied.

In every crisis the Kaiser blundered into, including his foolish "blank cheque" to Austria after Serb assassins murdered the heir to the Austrian throne, the Kaiser backed down or was trying to back away when war erupted.

Even Churchill, who before 1914 was charging the Kaiser with seeking "the dominion of the world," conceded, "History should ... acquit William II of having plotted and planned the World War."

What of World War II? Surely, it was necessary to declare war to stop Adolf Hitler from conquering the world and conducting the Holocaust.

Yet consider. Before Britain declared war on him, Hitler never demanded return of any lands lost at Versailles to the West. Northern Schleswig had gone to Denmark in 1919, Eupen and Malmedy had gone to Belgium, Alsace and Lorraine to France.

Why did Hitler not demand these lands back? Because he sought an alliance, or at least friendship, with Great Britain and knew any move on France would mean war with Britain -- a war he never wanted.

If Hitler were out to conquer the world, why did he not build a great fleet? Why did he not demand the French fleet when France surrendered? Germany had to give up its High Seas Fleet in 1918.

Why did he build his own Maginot Line, the Western Wall, in the Rhineland, if he meant all along to invade France?

If he wanted war with the West, why did he offer peace after Poland and offer to end the war, again, after Dunkirk?

That Hitler was a rabid anti-Semite is undeniable. "Mein Kampf" is saturated in anti-Semitism. The Nuremberg Laws confirm it. But for the six years before Britain declared war, there was no Holocaust, and for two years after the war began, there was no Holocaust.

Not until midwinter 1942 was the Wannsee Conference held, where the Final Solution was on the table.

That conference was not convened until Hitler had been halted in Russia, was at war with America and sensed doom was inevitable. Then the trains began to roll.

And why did Hitler invade Russia? This writer quotes Hitler 10 times as saying that only by knocking out Russia could he convince Britain it could not win and must end the war.

Hitchens mocks this view, invoking the Hitler-madman theory.

"Could we have a better definition of derangement and megalomania than the case of a dictator who overrules his own generals and invades Russia in wintertime ... ?"

Christopher, Hitler invaded Russia on June 22.

The Holocaust was not a cause of the war, but a consequence of the war. No war, no Holocaust.

Britain went to war with Germany to save Poland. She did not save Poland. She did lose the empire. And Josef Stalin, whose victims outnumbered those of Hitler 1,000 to one as of September 1939, and who joined Hitler in the rape of Poland, wound up with all of Poland, and all the Christian nations from the Urals to the Elbe.

The British Empire fought, bled and died, and made Eastern and Central Europe safe for Stalinism. No wonder Winston Churchill was so melancholy in old age. No wonder Christopher rails against the book. As T.S. Eliot observed, "Mankind cannot bear much reality."


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To: Carry_Okie

“They were the origins of the international banking cabal we face today.”

Uh, OK.


101 posted on 06/20/2008 9:08:16 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: null and void
Crystal(nacht) clear reasoning there, Carrie

First of all, I belong to a Jewish congregation. I am merely reporting a sequence of historical events; I am not attempting to justify them.

102 posted on 06/20/2008 9:08:33 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Uh, OK.

Read the book.

103 posted on 06/20/2008 9:09:18 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Pat is being used by the MSM to keep Jews on the Democratic plantation....I am a staunch conservative, but the fact that this Nazi sympathiser had ANY position in ANY Republican administration and managed to win a few primaries gives me pause about some of my fellow conservative travelers.

Some truth to that, attempts to portray him as "right wing" in the context of the GOP are a fraud, but common.

104 posted on 06/20/2008 9:09:30 AM PDT by SJackson (If we win Iowa, then we can move to the world as it should be, Michelle O)
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To: Carry_Okie
the international banking cabal

Take one Valu-Pak of Reynolds and call me in the morning.

105 posted on 06/20/2008 9:11:44 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: kellynla
Was the Holocaust Inevitable?

Patrick J. Buchanan is a man who—if he ever had it—has lost his ability to recognize evil and now finds himself, in Milton's words, "in wand'ring mazes lost".

106 posted on 06/20/2008 9:12:06 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Carry_Okie
First of all, I belong to a Jewish congregation. I am merely reporting a sequence of historical events; I am not attempting to justify them.

So why even mention it in this context? Pat IS trying to justify, or at least rationaize, Hitler's actions. Don't cross that line.

107 posted on 06/20/2008 9:12:09 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: wideawake
Read the book.
108 posted on 06/20/2008 9:12:14 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Marx was instructed in communism by Reform Rabbi Moses Hess. See post 87.

Marx's work was a direct response to Hegel and various utopian theorists. It bears litle to no relationship to Rabbinical Judaism.
109 posted on 06/20/2008 9:13:36 AM PDT by Borges
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To: PapaBear3625
The Jews were treated wonderfully right up untuil September 1, 1939, right Pat?... Hitler was willing to let the Jews emigrate to Palestine, but the Brits didn't want to upset the Arabs

Shame on the Brits, but irrelevant.

110 posted on 06/20/2008 9:13:42 AM PDT by SJackson (If we win Iowa, then we can move to the world as it should be, Michelle O)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Every time Pat speaksof the “Dear Leader”,I’m reminded of
the old Nazi in the play “The Producers.”


111 posted on 06/20/2008 9:14:14 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: ctdonath2

Could be.


112 posted on 06/20/2008 9:19:41 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: MeanWestTexan
Pat is being used by the MSM to keep Jews on the Democratic plantation.

Exactly. Pat becomes a media darling about every four years and it isn't an accident. They place his mug on camera with a caption reading "Conservative Commentator" or something similar while hailing him as a "leading conservative." All while he is being urged to say silly crap like "Hitler didn't really plan to kill Da Joooooooos."
113 posted on 06/20/2008 9:20:56 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: dirtboy; MeanWestTexan; null and void
Pat IS trying to justify, or at least rationaize, Hitler's actions. Don't cross that line.

How are you so sure of his motives? I am no fan of Buchannan (although I agree with his stand on illegal immigration), but some of what he says is accurate, but lacking in insight as to causes. I really do suggest Antelman's book, because it explains a very great deal about an important sweep of history we are simply not taught, particularly as regards Eastern Europe. Many of the documents that substantiate it have only come to light since the fall of the Soviet Union.

For example, did you know that Ataturk was a direct descendant of Zevi?

Oh, and do me a favor, the very word, "holocaust" was derived from the Greek root, "holokaustos," meaning, "a holy and accepted burnt offering." Before 1949, there was no other definition or usage in the Greek lexicon. A "burnt offering" is hardly what I would favor calling the murder of millions by burning them alive. The word "holocaust" is offensive to the Orthodox, but they accept that it is the common usage. The correct word is "Shoah," meaning "disaster."

114 posted on 06/20/2008 9:22:18 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: kellynla

How anyone can ignore all of the evidence that Hitler was planning for war from the beginning is beyond me...

The British Empire had already been in decline for a long while before Churchill.


115 posted on 06/20/2008 9:24:31 AM PDT by buck jarret
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To: Borges
Marx's work was a direct response to Hegel and various utopian theorists. It bears litle to no relationship to Rabbinical Judaism.

Have you read Moses Mendelsohn's ordination papers? I have. Have you read Abraham Geiger's acceptance speech? I have. Do you know much of the German communist revolution in 1848? Do you know where those who were expelled came? Or where Marx' descendants ended up?

Read Dr. Antelman's book (books, it's two volumes), really, it's an amazing story.

116 posted on 06/20/2008 9:25:55 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (We have people in power with desire for evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

What does one’s familial descent have to do with a political movement? Modern Communism was a post Industrial Revolution modification of Enlightenment utopianism going back to The French Revolution and before. Your ‘Conspiracy of Rabbis’ story would make good fodder for Dan Brown.


117 posted on 06/20/2008 9:28:01 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Carry_Okie
How are you so sure of his motives?

Spare me. He has taken a blame-America, blame-the-West stance for our current war - and, mixed in with his anti-Semetic comments in the past, leads to a logical conclusion - that he is rationalizing away the Holocaust. As other posters have noted, Hitler was calling for an end to the Jews long before he invaded Poland and was acting against them. I really, REALLY would step back from the line you are taking here.

118 posted on 06/20/2008 9:28:57 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Carry_Okie
First of all, I belong to a Jewish congregation.

The traditional line is "Some of my best friends are Jewish"...

Although we don't understand it, we're pretty familiar with the phenomena of self hating Jews here on FR.

the historic accommodation the Germans had shown for the Jewish people

ACCOMMODATION???

Ever wonder how "Einstein" became a nice name for a Jew?

German repression of the Christ-killer Jews goes back at least as far as the middle ages. Anyone with a Jewish name was banned from many jobs, including anything in banking, government, and owning many private sector businesses.

There was an 'out': if a Jew converted (even if only on paper) and changed his name to a 'decent German name' the restrictions were off.

Oh, one little thing? We have this list of approved names that are German enough. It's only a coincidence that all the names are double entendres.

Perfect. Win-win for the Krauts. Jews can't complain that they are totally locked out, we offered them a way to fully participate, and become German. That makes it OK to discriminate against the ones who won't swear loyalty to Germany. If they do take a funny name, and swear allegiance to Germany rather than Israel, we can still look down on them for their willingness to do anything for money.

Hitler didn't create German anti-semitism. He tapped into a deep wide and rich vein of hatred that was a core part of the German psyche for centuries.

And, Einstein? It means "One Testicle"...

119 posted on 06/20/2008 9:29:29 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can start differentiating, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians)
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To: kellynla

Frankly I suspect Pat believes he is initiating an argument by analogy against the West and its fight against Islam. I expect him to side with Islam. Nothing would surprise me these days.


120 posted on 06/20/2008 9:30:13 AM PDT by macamadamia
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