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To: PugetSoundSoldier

.....Obama must be stopped no matter what....

No matter what? If you read the posts of others here, “what” is zealot principle. They don’t give a damn about Obama if their principles are at stake.

The points you make need to be strongly presented by the Republicans. The proposed tax on profits is nationalization. You spend your money on production and overhead and the profits from those efforts is confiscated. The profit is taken for “redistribution and the common good”.


10 posted on 06/20/2008 8:52:32 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: bert

I agree... Those "radical conservatives" who will forgo the Republic in the name of their "principles". Look folks, the time to bring back Conservatism is NOW, but that does NOT mean becoming communist! No, it means starting to work NOW to build up a viable conservative candidate for 2012. The next election began the day McCain won enough delegates.

These "my way or the highway!" types are going to throw not just the baby, but the mother, the father, and the siblings out with the bathwater, and force the locks to be changed too... Seriously, if the Democrats get the Presidency, then the Communist vision for America runs rampant. We are talking a complete takeover of the economy. And then it is quite easy to take over the "votes".

Too many scream about the Bill of Rights, and our inalienable rights from the Creator. The issue is that ALL those rights rest on one foundation - economic liberty. Without economic liberty, can a man afford to press his own writings? Can a man afford to purchase firearms? Can a man HAVE a house and papers to be secured against Government intrusion?

No, the fundamental bedrock of this Nation and the freedoms we enjoy is economic freedom. THAT is what makes us great, and that is what will keep us great. This Nation was founded as a revolt over taxation; economic freedom is WHY the founders started this great land!

But all that is in jeopardy - SERIOUS jeopardy - if Obama wins. We already know the Democrats will nationalize healthcare - the writing is on the wall, no one on the Democrat side has NOT called for it. It's a universal truth of the Left.

Now we see the clarion call of nationalization applied to energy. Not just a major sector of our economy, but the one thing that ENABLES our economy. The ONLY thing that you can do without purchasing energy is to let your grass grow!

Think about it, folks. Food, clothing, shelter, transportation, communication. All rely upon energy. With the power to regulate energy is the power to regulate - de facto - the economy. Pure and simple.

Consider also that the current US Federal Budget is 21% of our GDP - $3.2 trillion of $15 trillion. The Government directly accounts for 1 of every 5 dollars spent.

Now add in nationalization of healthcare - which WILL happen. That's another 15%. And now add in the nationalization of energy, as we're seeing now brazenly put forth by the political Left. That's another 15% of our GDP. We're talking 51% of the GDP being DIRECT spending and controlled by the Federal Government.

Think about that: the Federal Government - namely, unelected bureaucrats - would control one of every two dollars spent in our nation. They would have a complete control of the nation from the Federal level, simply by the purse strings held so tight. And do not forget that the Federal Goverment would have the power to decide what you can do today (via regulation of energy - remember the gas lines in the 70s), or who gets to live and die (via healthcare).

But you know what? We'll still get those "radical conservatives" here who will whine about McCain being soft on this issue, or wrong on that one. And ignore the 80% he's right on, and the big goose-egg Obama puts up!

At least they can cling to their "principles" as we shuffle through the breadlines, comrade!

If only they would remember the words of President Ronald Reagan:

When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it.

"Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.

I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'

If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

Alas, I fear this will fall on deaf ears. Children and their tantrums, after all...

13 posted on 06/20/2008 9:44:47 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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