[FFranco]

There is a clause in the US constitution prohibiting hereditary offices and titles of nobility.

[Unlikely Hero]

Yes, I remember that now that you mention it. Here is the full text:

“No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.”

So I wonder if this would technically apply, since it refers to the title granted by the United States itself.

Here’s a bit on the subject from a poster on this site:

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

“Nobility, Title of
Nobility is technically a station in society that is had simply by being born into the right family. The class of persons, well-characterized by the aristocracy of Great Britain, were considered to be higher in status and power because of the family name. A title of nobility indicated that status, where a person was a king, queen, prince, princess, count, countess, duke, duchess, baron, or baroness; these titles were granted by the monarch at some point in the family history and passed from parent to child. The Framers wished to ensure that no such system of heredity developed in the United States and specifically prohibited any state or the federal government from granting any title of nobility. Suggested by: Ian (board regular)”

so this poster interprets it in such a way that it limits the individual states as well as the United States collectively.

[agere_contra]

There is a clause in the US constitution prohibiting hereditary offices and titles of nobility.

Weird thing is: actual nobility couldn't get away with the stuff Teddy Kennedy, Bill Clinton etc have done.

[villagerjoel]

“There is a clause in the US constitution prohibiting hereditary offices and titles of nobility.”

Didn’t know that, but good to know!

Can we please please please give Hawaii their wish on this one (As in, separate country, with a monarchy)?

[fish hawk]

If they truly want back their true monarchy, this is what they will get: The King (Alii) owns everything including all the land. Yes, you can live on it but the Alii owns it and you can only do what he lets you do on it. When you go fishing all day and catch a big string of fish. You give it to the Alii and he takes what he wants and maybe lets you have what is left for your troubles. If he walks by and you don't bow down on the ground or even if his shadow falls on you accidentally, you will be executed by garroting. I could go on and on. Also if they truly want the old ways, no washer/dryers, cars, anything electrical like stoves and TVs etc. And on top of that there are many factions of Hawaiian groups here that are already fighting each other for power.

I am an American Indian and the most I see happening in the future is that they become somewhat like the Native Americans and Eskimos. They will NEVER get the Hawaiian Islands back in the sense that they are thinking.

[Frank Sheed]

What! Well, I’m dashed! I had no idea!

Lord Francis Sheed VI,
Earl of Rhode Island