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Puerto Rico Legislator Asks Spain to Intervene in Addressing the Island's Political Status
El Vocero de Puerto Rico (Spanish-language article) ^ | June 19, 2008 | Maricarmen Rivera Sánchez

Posted on 06/19/2008 7:39:39 AM PDT by Ebenezer

(English-language translation)

Understanding that Spain has "a moral debt" to Puerto Rico after ceding the island [to the United States] following the Spanish-American War, Popular Democratic Party (PPD) Senator Eudaldo Báez Galib asked the government of Spain to intervene to help solve the problem of the [island's political] status.

Báez sent a letter to Spain's Consul-General in Puerto Rico Carlos Vinuesa Salto asking him to go before the International Court of Justice to present Puerto Rico's case.

"The historical moment has come for Spain to tend to its affairs with Puerto Rico. Among these, the mere fact that Puerto Rico was ceded without consulting the Puerto Rican [people] at the time and under the prevailing idiosyncrasy then," the letter reads.

The PPD Senator argues on the three-page letter, a copy of which was sent to the Governor's Mansion, that the Puerto Rican status problem is partly Spain's responsibility. He added that the Treaty of Paris, through which the island passed to American hands, was violated.

"A great moral debt from Spain to Puerto Rico exists. Even after the island's transfer to the United States as spoils of the Spanish-American War, the cultural links and special affections never ceased, even if the political ones were broken," the letter indicates.

In justifying his request, [Báez] said that Puerto Rico does not have "international juridical personality" to go before the Court.

"Spain does possess such a personality. Furthermore, as a signatory to the Treaty and as a party with interest and right, it has the capacity to present Puerto Rico's case before this Court. In addition, it may demand when appropriate a delimitation of that authority acquired by the Congress of the United States that, by strict international law, is not eternal," the letter says.

It was not possible to obtain a reaction from the Spanish Consulate.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: puertorico; spain; spanishamericanwar; unitedstates
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To: rrstar96; AuH2ORepublican; livius; adorno; wtc911; Willie Green; CGVet58; Clemenza; Narcoleptic; ...
Ay, bendito!

Puerto Rico Ping! Please Freepmail me if you want on or off the list.


21 posted on 06/19/2008 8:06:23 AM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: abishai; EagleUSA

Ah, foreign aid! An independent Puerto Rico might invoke it claiming the United States has a (here we go again) “moral debt” to the island.


22 posted on 06/19/2008 8:06:35 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: cll
Ay, bendito!

I don't know. It's more like ¡Coño! to me.

23 posted on 06/19/2008 8:09:51 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

The Senator is apparently not satisfied with the democratic process in Puerto Rico and is looking for a court to overrule the will of the island’s people.


24 posted on 06/19/2008 8:12:23 AM PDT by RonF
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To: All

Just how we islanders got into this limbo could have been avoided if we had heeded the words of the Great Dissenter back in 1901:

“In my opinion, Congress has no existence and can exercise no authority outside of the Constitution. Still less is it true that Congress can deal with new territories just as other nations have done or may do with their new territories. This nation is under the control of a written constitution, the supreme law of the land and the only source of the powers which our government, or any branch or officer of it, may exert at any time or at any place. Monarchical and despotic governments, unrestrained by written constitutions, may do with newly acquired territories what this government may not do consistently with our fundamental law. To say otherwise is to concede that Congress may, by action taken outside of the Constitution, engraft upon our republican institutions a colonial system such as exists under monarchical governments. Surely such a result was never contemplated by the fathers of the Constitution. If that instrument had contained a word suggesting the possibility of a result of that character it would never have been adopted by the people of the United States. The idea that this country may acquire territories anywhere upon the earth, by conquest or treaty, and hold them as mere colonies or provinces,—the people inhabiting them to enjoy only such rights as Congress chooses to accord to them,—is wholly inconsistent with the spirit and genius, as well as with the words, of the Constitution.” - Justice John Harlan, dissenting in the Insular Cases, 1901


25 posted on 06/19/2008 8:14:01 AM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: RonF
Typical liberal modus operandi, don't you think?
26 posted on 06/19/2008 8:15:27 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: cll; All

So, the case is made. Either statehood or independence.


27 posted on 06/19/2008 8:18:04 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96
Outgoing US official doesn't rule out statehood for Guam

Article covers possible statehood and unification for territories of Guam and Northern Mariannas.

28 posted on 06/19/2008 8:18:15 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: Centurion2000
Guam, the Marianas Islands and the US Virgin Islands of all places meet the requirements of statehood.

There are no fixed requirements for statehood. Each territory that becomes a state is subject to its own specific Congressional enabling legislation which spells out the particular conditions required for statehood for each individual territory.

29 posted on 06/19/2008 8:18:43 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: rrstar96

Maybe he can schedule another referendum.


30 posted on 06/19/2008 8:22:24 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: NewJerseyJoe; livius
I think you are both right but the spectre/Specter here is one of an international body asserting its authority over US affairs. Foreign "laws" applied to American citizens in American territory.

I'm sure Spain wants nothing to do with the proposal - but someone else (another former Spanish colony?) might find the idea an ideal means to tweak Uncle Sam.

The UN, of course, would be all too eager to spend buckets of money (mostly ours) investigating how we've gone wrong in upholding the treaty.

And, although every Puerto Rican I've even known was just tickled with their unique status, there is no telling what the UN might have to say about the proper course for an ethnic enclave off the coast and 'suffering under the yoke of 'gringo domination' (or something).

On the bright side, we could condemn the old building in Turtle Bay, pull diplomatic immunity from the UN, hand over a lot of newly empty hotel space in Puerto Rico, and perhaps let 'em both go together.

31 posted on 06/19/2008 8:23:48 AM PDT by norton
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To: rrstar96

Yup. What are the odds that a 5-4 split of SCOTUS will recognize their authority?


32 posted on 06/19/2008 8:31:54 AM PDT by RonF
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To: rrstar96; cll

No need to go before any court, you just hold an election. Its easy.

But, of course, then you’d have to accept the will of the people as determined by the vote, which guys like this most assuredly don’t want to do. He is venue-shopping, he’s looking for a judge to give him what his powers of persuasion and the will of his fellow citizens won’t give him.


33 posted on 06/19/2008 8:46:40 AM PDT by marron
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To: rrstar96

If Congress, the Courts, and the FedGov respected the Constitution, statehood would equal independence. For Puerto Rico and the rest of the States.


34 posted on 06/19/2008 8:56:50 AM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: cll

Precisely! That is the whole concept of federalism the Constitution enshrines!


35 posted on 06/19/2008 9:05:10 AM PDT by Ebenezer (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

Mother Spain doesn’t like the Basque and Catalonian either.


36 posted on 06/19/2008 9:17:20 AM PDT by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: Just another Joe

Sadly, with the “New” amnesty bill being proposed they won’t need U.S citizenship.


37 posted on 06/19/2008 9:26:57 AM PDT by late bloomer ( Neglegere homo pone aulaeum. semi-retired warlord)
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To: late bloomer

No, but if they were an independent nation they would, at least, have to GET here.


38 posted on 06/19/2008 9:31:25 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: wideawake
There are no fixed requirements for statehood.

I recall learning in school that a territory had to have at least 60,000 people before they could apply for statehood (not a problem for Puerto Rico). But as you say, there is nothing in the Constitution about this and it seems to come from an early law called the Northwest Ordinance.

39 posted on 06/19/2008 10:01:58 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: rrstar96

THERE’S a Democrat I could vote for.


40 posted on 06/19/2008 10:09:06 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("Ah! but it was something to have at least a choice of nightmares.")
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