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U.S. Says 400-Billion Barrel Bakken Oil Field a 'Myth'
CNSNews ^ | June 18, 2008 | Keriann Hopkins CNSNews.com Correspondent

Posted on 06/18/2008 10:10:46 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The USGS survey took 21 years to complete. The original lead author passed away before it was finished, he and his successor knew/know more than any other person in the world about this field. It is a rock solid analysis according to the oil commodities and equities speculation forums that I frequent. ANYONE who says otherwise at this point is to be assumed to be guilty of being a scam artist unless they can prove otherwise...


21 posted on 06/18/2008 10:38:44 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The government doesn’t know if there is 4 billion or 400 billion. The oil companies evidently think there is oil down there worth going after or they wouldn’t be jumping through hoops to get it.

They are expanding pipeline networks up there like gangbusters. They must think they have a good reason or they wouldn’t do it.

The weasel words are “accessible by current technologies”. Actually, they had to develop new technologies to get anything at all out of Bakken, so thats neither here nor there. Oil companies are developing new techniques every day, if you work in the industry you know that. If you don’t, you may imagine you have a clue but you probably don’t.

The biggest difference is that they are in the Dakotas. If this was anywhere else they’d never get permission. If Bakken was in western Colorado, or off-shore California, or the Alaskan North Slope, we’d be told every day that it wasn’t worth going after. Nothing there. Not wise.


22 posted on 06/18/2008 10:40:02 AM PDT by marron
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We won’t know until it’s explored.


23 posted on 06/18/2008 10:40:49 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: mgc1122

3-4 billion barrels is still not chump change.

In my layman’s opinion, if I were betting my money, I’d still wager that the current estimate is conservative.

And how about all of these pontificating heads spending time talking about Utah’s massive reserves of clean coal? Our coal fired plants are pretty clean now. We need more of them.

And how about GWB issuing an executive order canceling Clinton’s and opening Utah back up? Bush’s record as proactive pro-energy is pretty shabby.


24 posted on 06/18/2008 10:41:59 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: bpjam
The article is wierd too, it says there is less oil now than the earlier report but then goes on....

Kolak also explained that the 25-fold increase between the 1995 estimates and the 2008 assessment is due to two factors: an improved understanding of the geology and advances in drilling technology.

So, which is it?

25 posted on 06/18/2008 10:46:09 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Huck

You, Farley!


26 posted on 06/18/2008 10:46:56 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Democrat_media

Ping for our earlier discussion on this field.


27 posted on 06/18/2008 10:48:56 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Well there is one thing for sure, if Blitz Obama gets into the White House we will never know will we?
28 posted on 06/18/2008 10:49:34 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: PrairieRoot
I’m calling BS on the reasoning behind this article. Otherwise, why would these oil companies be spending millions in leases, millions in drilling, millions in related infrastructure, if their wasn’t much oil to be had?

Because it doesn't need to be 400 billion barrels to be worth drilling. 3.6 billion is still more than worthwhile and has been the cause of significantly increased drilling and leases for several years before this report was even released.

29 posted on 06/18/2008 10:51:14 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: JerseyHighlander
The USGS survey took 21 years to complete. The original lead author passed away before it was finished, he and his successor knew/know more than any other person in the world about this field.

This was a separate survey and Leigh Price's report was published after his death by the USGS and is available free online at:

Diagenesis and Fracture Development in the Bakken Formation, Williston Basin: Implications for Reservoir Quality in the Middle Member
By Janet K. Pitman, Leigh C. Price, and Julie A. LeFever
U.S. Geological Survey Professional Paper 1653
http://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/p1653/p1653.pdf
First printing November 2001

30 posted on 06/18/2008 10:54:02 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: mgc1122
Put a rig in my backyard if you think there’s a couple of hundred barrels down there.

Gg right ahead and spend 10 million dollars to recover the couple hundred barrels under your house.

31 posted on 06/18/2008 10:54:42 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: thackney

The facts on this Field seem to be really garbled...


32 posted on 06/18/2008 10:55:25 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: colorado tanker

It is 400 MMMBO in place. Being an unconventional reservoir, the recovery factor is 5 to 10%, so that would be 20 to 40 MMMBO recoverable. A typical conventional oil field has a recovery that varies from 30 to 70%.


33 posted on 06/18/2008 10:57:43 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: kcm.org

All President Bush really has to do is sign an Executive Order calling the CTFC to investigate the oil futures market and the manipulators will flee causing the oil bubble to explode!

WHY doesn’t he DO THIS NOW?


34 posted on 06/18/2008 10:57:55 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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FR Thread on statements today by President Bush:

President Bush telling Congress- DRILL! LIVE THREAD- Rose Garden press conference at 10:30 AM

35 posted on 06/18/2008 10:58:12 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: tet68

There is not less oil than the earlier report.

Do not confuse the “oil in place” estimate with the “technically recoverable oil” estimate. The second is a small fraction of the first. It is the “technically recoverable” portion that has greatly increased over the earlier estimate. The total oil in place estimate was not part of this later report.


36 posted on 06/18/2008 11:00:30 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
No, the reporting by journalists on this field are really garbled.

You can read the Fact Sheet by USGS for yourself at:

Assessment of Undiscovered Oil Resources in the Devonian-Mississippian Bakken Formation, Williston Basin Province, Montana and North Dakota, 2008
http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2008/3021/pdf/FS08-3021_508.pdf

37 posted on 06/18/2008 11:02:21 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: kcm.org
All President Bush really has to do is sign an Executive Order calling the CTFC to investigate the oil futures market and the manipulators will flee causing the oil bubble to explode!

Really?

And George Soros told you this....

There's a great source.........

38 posted on 06/18/2008 11:06:21 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: nmh
There are some things going on .,...with out him needing to take the axe out just yet...looking around found this at Marketwatch:

MARK HULBERT
Oil isn't free -- Commentary: Price vulnerable to factors other than supply and demand

**********************EXCERPT*************************

One adviser who has focused on these issues is John Dessauer, editor of the Investors World newsletter. In a recent communication to subscribers, he discussed the impact on the price of oil of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which Congress passed in December 2000. One consequence of that legislation, according to Dessauer, is that "the oil market has been grossly distorted."
By how much?
Dessauer estimates that if the government rolled back the regulatory changes made in that legislation, oil's price could fall back all the way to $80 per barrel. That would represent a 40% drop from where crude closed on Tuesday.

39 posted on 06/18/2008 11:06:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: trumandogz

“Gg right ahead and spend 10 million dollars to recover the couple hundred barrels under your house.”

ROTFL ... gee, thanks for your permission. Actually, it would be far, far less than you stated. It’s only about $2k a foot to drill and where I live it won’t be miles beneath the surface. Numbers courtesy DOE.


40 posted on 06/18/2008 11:16:58 AM PDT by mgc1122
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