Posted on 06/17/2008 7:02:09 AM PDT by Uncle Ralph
[The Canadian Islamic Congress] took [Maclean's Magazine and author Mark Steyn] to "court," but not a real court. These tribunals [of the Canadian Human Rights Commission] have all the rigor of a student government star chamber. There are no rules of evidence and, again, truth is not a defense.
Why bother with evidence at all? Hate speech is essentially defined as anything certain "victimized" people find offensive...
And what about free speech? Dean Steacy, an investigator for Canada's national commission, explained it nicely: "Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don't give it any value." He gets points for honesty...
It might be easy for some to dismiss all of this. After all, we're talking about Canada.
But this is just the latest in a long parade of assaults on free speech, including the aftermath of the Danish Muhammad cartoons and the murder of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh. Sometimes it seems like a lot of people see free speech as "an American concept," thus in need of rethinking.
As the Atlantic's Ross Douthat observed, the New York Times' only story on the case suggested "that the 1st Amendment is a peculiar and quite possibly outdated feature of the American political system, along the lines of, say, the electoral college or the District of Columbia's lack of congressional representation..."
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
Funny how such an ignoramus was put in charge of these show trials. Or maybe that was the intention? But of course, anyone in a former Crown colony dumb enough to make such a brazenly false statement shouldn't be in any position of authority.
Bump
If the Founders had had any idea of what was going to happen in this country, they would have made the Second Amendment the First Amendment and added another line, something like:
“All other rights which we will now proceed to enumerate, flow out of this fundamental right of individual citizens to arm themselves against the unreasonable power of the state.”
(Something like that.)
Do you have a reference source for that possible GW quote? It sounds like another bogus one.
Try doing a search on the phrase. Google shows about a thousand hits. Try this link:
Those are not attributed references. There are dozens of proven bogus quotes by Jeffereson, Washington etc that are repeated thousands of times on the internet. Another famous bogus GW quote is the one about the 2nd amd that refers to consetoga wagons. It has been repeated over and over, so it must have a thousand google hits. Still, it’s bogus. A thousand internet hits means zip. Attribution means when did he say it? In what letter or speech, to whom? WIthout that, I’ll just have to assume this is another bogus quote, given life by the internet.
This is what a sourced attribution looks like. Click the UVA.edu link, and go to contents, then subjects. Every valid Jefferson quote is sourced to the date, letter or speech etc.
http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/
Even brainyquotes uses your GW quote, but it also quotes GW’s bogus “2nd amd is liberty’s teeth,” so evidently anybody can stuff brainyqoutes with fake crap. Your possibly bogus GW quote is given no attribution on brainyquotes, which is not surprising.
Don’t be complacent. It’s already here but to a lesser degree. With a liberal administration, it will get worse.
The man does not have the intestinal fortitude to add a caveat. This would be "my freedom of speech is my value" and "If I want your opinion I will give it to you".
A bureacratic dictator, a non-violent terrorist.
He is the agent provocateur for the "Hate Crimes" Johnnies. He posted on a right wing extremist web site. It is called "Stormfront". He posted messages of extreme and wacked out hate. He used a pseudonym. Prosecutions were then urged by another group within his area of "expertise", then saying- look at that hatred. A Richard Warman was involved.
Steacy has been legally blind since 2004.
Take you pick.
Incomplete —please delete.
http://search.peoplepc.com/search?area=earthlink-peoplepc-wssynd&cgid=176&memberID=null&segmentID=1,-2,-3,-4&category=membersite&channel=&hl=&logosrc=http://home.peoplepc.com/i/common/ppco_blue.gif&q=%22If+the+freedom+of+speech+is+taken+away+then+dumb+and+silent+we+may+be+led%2C+like+sheep+to+the+slaughter%2E%22
Has Canada moved?
The last time I looked at a map, it was still a part of America.
So, it would appear to me, following that dictatorial idiot's logic, any concept hatched in Canada is also to be given little value. Hmmmmm. Put that way, maybe he's not entirely off the mark.
Maybe you do, but when I read an attributed quote that is abcolutely true and appropriate, I don't worry a helluva lot about the possibility the one who posted the truth was right about the attribution or not. To me that does not change the truth.
And in this case, George or no George, the quote hits the nail squarely on the head.
I don't remember ever hearing about the Newburgh conspiracy. You learn something new every day.
That’s the point - NOBODY is stupid enough to make a statement like this. Think about the mind set of these people - can anybody with enough of a brain to function be this stupid?
It’s just like Mugabe’s burning people who want to democratically un-elect him - it’s a way to hold on to power at all costs. The left instinctively understands this, while we on the right just think they are stupid. It’s not stupidity - it’s fascism.
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