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The Associated Press to Set Guidelines for Using Its Articles in Blogs
new york times ^ | 6/16/08 | SAUL HANSELL

Posted on 06/16/2008 7:02:06 AM PDT by mathprof

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To: Izzy Dunne
Of course it happens.

The AP has taken notes from Stalin as far as "fair reporting" is concerned.

Fact is the b@stards at AP want Obama in the White House, and from here to November they will stop at nothing to make it happen.

Every AP article you read will be shamelessly slanted toward Obama, and no one will be able to call them on it lest they be sued in court over "copyright infringement."

The communist b@stards are going to use our court system to destroy us if we openly question their lies and deceit.


21 posted on 06/16/2008 7:30:09 AM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: Bobalu

All GREAT ideas! bttt


22 posted on 06/16/2008 7:30:28 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving a Phase Two Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber.)
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To: Bean Counter
A Fair(y) Use Tale
23 posted on 06/16/2008 7:31:04 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Vote For McCain But Trust In The Lord.)
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To: urtax$@work

Reminds me of a Chicago columnist who hated it when his newspaper offered an online opportunity for readers to post their remarks to his writings.

They don’t want the challenge to what they write.

The “letters to the editor” in the WWW now bypass an “editor” and go straight to the public. And the citation of the article lets it be public record what is being discussed so someone cannot say “they COULDN’T have meant it that way, are you SURE?”.


24 posted on 06/16/2008 7:32:41 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: no-s

Good idea, yep they do change stories during a news cycle.
Have seen newspapers online do same thing.

robots.txt directive .... not spider it

huh!?!


25 posted on 06/16/2008 7:33:21 AM PDT by urtax$@work (we have faced tenacity before....& The Best kind of Memorial is a BURNING Memorial)
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To: Abathar

sites like DU seem to be exempt from the same ban that some sources enforce upon FR.

And Snopes also got a break from Bill Gates’ Corbis (don’t even try hot linking the photo of Kerry with Jane Fonda). Snopes did add a copyright statement but they host the photos on their own servers. Are they PAYING Corbis? I doubt it.


26 posted on 06/16/2008 7:35:53 AM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: mathprof
The Drudge Retort was initially started as a left-leaning parody of the much larger Drudge Report, run by the conservative >B>muckraker Matt Drudge.

Always love the balanced unbiased reporting.

The AP prints or posts news. People talk about that news which was printed or posted yet we are not allowed to print or post what was actually said.

I can see the next thread on FR.

AP reports.......(Redacted)......

Member #1--What's your opinion on this?

Member #2---I don't know what your talking about.

27 posted on 06/16/2008 7:36:28 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 4 year old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: mathprof

28 posted on 06/16/2008 7:57:36 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: urtax$@work
Robots.txt is a web standard to control web crawlers accessing a site. See e.g. http://www.freerepublic.com/robots.txt.

Typically the file identifies links the web crawler may not follow (this is called "spidering") using a wild-card expression. Some sites also exploit this feature to exclude crawling of links browsers may follow, so their information won't be indexed by search engine crawlers (e.g. yahoo! slurp, googlebot) or archived by the wayback machine (archive.org).

However robots.txt is only a convention. But some ninnies try to use it for self-censoring, especially to prevent the Wayback machine archiving unflattering information.

29 posted on 06/16/2008 7:58:15 AM PDT by no-s
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To: mathprof

New rules: Conservative blogs can no longer use our stuff.

Left wing blogs we agree with are fine.


30 posted on 06/16/2008 7:58:34 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Obama for President!)
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To: devane617

I suppose you’re right. But I don’t know what gives AP the right to change established law. Seems to me that AP should have to change the law like all of us instead of just, boom, saying from now on it will be OUR way.

The “Fair Use” law has been around for a while and a couple of things....first, it’s a fair and decent way to quote a source without blatantly plagiarizing it and second, most sources, although not all I know, WANT to be quoted and/or linked to.

The AP thinks it is above all this and so they’re demanding a site to take down a 39 word excerpt?

Fair Use is considered, roughly, very roughly, no more than a 10% excerpt. So that 39 word excerpt would be in compliance with Fair Use if the original article was around 400 words or so.

But hey, let the mighty AP and their own legislative body take it to court.

If somehow AP gets the Fair Use law thrown overboard, it will make more enemies than friends.


31 posted on 06/16/2008 8:13:22 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: DBrow

“Perhaps, but I would personally archive the article on my HD just in case the AP archive changes over the years.”

Years? They alter articles and headlines hourly sometimes.


32 posted on 06/16/2008 8:17:31 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: mathprof
That's funny—I don't remember the New York Times caring too much when the Associated Press came after me... But when they come after a leftist website? Stop the presses!

Sheesh. No respect at all. ;)

Regards,
Brian/Snapped Shot

33 posted on 06/16/2008 8:40:13 AM PDT by Brian C. Ledbetter
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To: milford421; DAVEY CROCKETT

Ping.


34 posted on 06/16/2008 10:11:03 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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To: mathprof
This is stupid. Link-only stinks.

Leave the internet alone. Be glad people are reading and discussing your story.
35 posted on 06/16/2008 10:41:28 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mathprof
How about trademarks?


36 posted on 06/16/2008 10:48:56 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The Bitcons will elect a Democrat by default)
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To: Sudetenland
Bloggers should unite on this and inform AP that their internet articles will cease to be referenced at all should they do this. Let them know they will be slitting their own throats.

Some bloggers already made a unilateral decision.

at TechCrunch, Michael Arrington has instituted a new policy on AP stories - they’re banned from the site.

“They do not want people quoting their stories, despite the fact that such activity very clearly falls within the fair use exception to copyright law. They claim that the activity is an infringement.

So here’s our new policy on A.P. stories: they don’t exist. We don’t see them, we don’t quote them, we don’t link to them.”


37 posted on 06/16/2008 12:22:05 PM PDT by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: ConservativeMind; bert; abb
crAP's opposition offers conclusive evidence of passing into the second stage of the truth about new media putting an end to old media.
"Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first it is ridiculed, in the second it is violently opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident."

-Arthur Schopenhauer

38 posted on 06/16/2008 12:35:53 PM PDT by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: mathprof
"..Mr. Kennedy argued, however, that The Associated Press believes that in some cases, the essence of an article can be encapsulated in very few words.

“As content creators, we firmly believe that everything we create, from video footage all the way down to a structured headline, is creative content that has value,” he said.

But he also said that the association hopes that it will not have to test this theory in court..."

How in hell can you talk about an article without reference to the title?

39 posted on 06/18/2008 10:42:45 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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