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On the job, their way (Somali Workers In Minneapolis)
Minneapolis Star/Tribune (aka The Red Star) ^ | 6/15/08 | Chris Serres - Staff Reporter

Posted on 06/15/2008 1:16:22 PM PDT by MplsSteve

Clashes are increasing between Somali Muslims and Minnesota employers. Can the loose-fitting garb be a safety hazard? Is there a difference between a bathroom break and a prayer break?

Fatuma Hassan has just enough rice in her near-empty cupboards to make it through the month. The anger she felt when she lost her job in May has given way to a dull, nagging hunger.

Yet this soft-spoken 22-year-old became an unlikely hero within the Somali community when she and five of her Muslim co-workers were dismissed last month from the Mission Foods tortilla factory in New Brighton for refusing to wear a new company uniform -- a shirt and pants -- they consider a violation of their Islamic beliefs.

"For me, wearing pants is the same as being naked," Hassan said, noting the prophet Mohammed taught that men and women should not dress alike. "My culture, my religious beliefs, are more important than a uniform."

Over the past century, Minnesota has seen waves of immigrants from Germany, Sweden, Norway and Laos, among other nations, and each group managed to move up the ladder of prosperity despite some initial doubts about their ability to integrate.

Yet nearly two decades after a violent civil war brought thousands of Somali refugees to the Twin Cities, their integration in the U.S. workplace is becoming more contentious.

Their insistence on maintaining Muslim traditions, including prayer times and modest clothing, have led to firings at several manufacturers across the state and a sharp increase in religious discrimination complaints.

The well-publicized clashes also have sparked legal and ethical debates on whether efficiency-hungry workplaces are doing enough or defiant workers are accommodating too little.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: employment; islam; rights; somali
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To: MplsSteve

We have a muslim family that lives in the same apartments. The daughter bullies my daughter, and the son makes prank calls threatening to kill people (he called me and scared me terribly!) The mother believes her kids are angels and I am evil for accusing her children of such things.

The other day, I called the police on the daughter bullying my daughter again and was told “you are the second parent to call on this girl today”.

The mother stands on her balcony and stares at my house. If I am sitting in front of the sliding patio door or standing on my balcony, she screams at me in whatever language she speaks (it’s not english).


21 posted on 06/15/2008 2:03:46 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: pnh102

“My culture, my religious beliefs, are more important than a uniform.”

Then get your black a.. and go back to where you came from !


22 posted on 06/15/2008 2:13:50 PM PDT by traumer
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To: trussell

You need to sit in front of your patio door......while cleaning your gun.


23 posted on 06/15/2008 2:15:02 PM PDT by MountainDad
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To: duffus

When and where and with whom shall this deportation process be organized and begin? They really won’t assimilate and why should they, it’s not required in our diversified society? What politician(s) would begin to speak to this issue sanely? Throughout history, groups have been deported, some rightly (as with the muslim Moors in Spain although it took 700 years.) I some times think that this solution is beginning to form in people’s subconscious but they’ve been so PC’d and brainwashed that they’re afraid to be labeled as “racist, divisive, islamophobic, etc.” when in fact they’re really concerned about maintaining their own culture and way of life. When does the wake up call begin, when there’s another 9/11 or are these enemies of Western freedom going to play the waiting game and provide us with a death by a thousand cuts? Wake up America, and grow some gonads.....


24 posted on 06/15/2008 2:19:49 PM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: MplsSteve

“There is a rise in crime caused by Somali youths, particularly in the Cedar-Riverside area.”

They are not here to embrace America and become become Americans, they are part of the islamic Trojan Horse that is here to destroy America. Violent Somali (muslim) “yutes?” I will never forget that these miscreants dragged the stripped bodies of our soldiers through the streets of Mogadishu after our troops had gone there to protect their sorry asses and to ensure food was delivered to them (food that the islamic warlords had ripped off). They don’t deserve our aid and comfort: They deserve two to the chest and one to the head.

Wake up, America.


25 posted on 06/15/2008 2:22:10 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: MplsSteve
"He may think these are an intrusion to the freedom that he had at home. He's not afraid to take a stand."

If he has all those freedoms at home then what the hell is he doing here?

26 posted on 06/15/2008 2:23:46 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: duffus
I, for one, refuse to assimilate to their disgusting, primitive life of darkened awareness. Let them be gone!!
27 posted on 06/15/2008 2:26:47 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: duffus
Assimilation or deportation.

Who are you, the Borg? Personally I don't give a damn if they assimilate or not. But don't expect the rest of the world to bend over backwards to accomodate you. You want to pray 5 times a day? Fine. Dock your pay for the time spent doing so. You want to wear loose fitting clothes? Terrific. But don't expect to be able to work around machinery in a manufacturing environment. You don't want to carry people with liquor? Outstanding. Don't drive a cab and you'll never have to. Want to wash your feet in a public restroom? Great. Do it in the toilet and not the sink I'm going to wash my hands in. Don't force your culture on me and I won't force mine on you. Deal?

28 posted on 06/15/2008 2:28:55 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ought-six
Wasn't it somali muslim yutes that rioted in France?
29 posted on 06/15/2008 2:32:07 PM PDT by EBH ( ... the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness. --Alculin c.735-804)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I suggest you read a great deal more about Islam and their societies and history throughout the ages, especially when they’ve decided to “adjust” the societies they’ve begun to inhabit. They’re only interested in the long run of forcing their culture on you, whether you like it or not. You get three choices with Islam; convert, accept second class citizenship or die. An open and free society is the one easiest for them to play their trade without having to wield a scimitar. You may want to read excerpts from the Koran as well, they’re amply displayed on this website. There are several reasons as to why these events are rising to a head in this day and age; if you want to discuss them further, please do.


30 posted on 06/15/2008 2:35:37 PM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: john drake
An open and free society is the one easiest for them to play their trade without having to wield a scimitar.

So what's your solution, drop the open and free society that we enjoy? Bend ourselves to deal with them? Sorry but I'm not willing to do that. They're here, and so long as they don't do anything illegal then they get to stay here. I'm willing to let them practice their religion, but not at my expense. If their religion interferes with their job then they don't deserve to keep the job.

31 posted on 06/15/2008 2:39:25 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

No, maintain the free society by preventing enemies of a free society from destroying it. Their whole societal framework is a combined political/religious/economic/legal entity, no separation of any of the units, unlike the West. Their ability to practice any elements of them are tied together. They will not assimilate and they will seek to over throw and destroy this society. It is expected of them as good mohammedans. Read all about it, it’s available anywhere on the internet and at fine bookstores everywhere.


32 posted on 06/15/2008 2:47:38 PM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: MplsSteve
If the Somali's have a problem with the uniform required by workplace and likely OSHA rules, then let them work elsewhere or get back on the boat. This is the USA not some Islamic country under sharia law (sadly it might not be for long) and the Somali immigrants just like the immigrants from other countries have to learn to live here.

The Somali group in the Twin Cities has had a lot of problems like this. Somali cab drivers at the Minneapolis airport were the ones not picking up passengers with seeing eye dogs and visible sacks of liquor. Somali clerks have refused to scan pork products at the checkout counter of some Twin Cities stores. If they don't like the work then STFU and find something else.

33 posted on 06/15/2008 2:59:07 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: MplsSteve
If you live in the Twin Cities area, you can't but help notice a
strong influx of Somalis in the last ten years...
and all in all, it hasn't been a plus.


My brother got his masters degree at U. Minn (St. Paul campus) in
the mid-1990s.
When he returned from visiting The Twin Cities two years ago,
he said there were more "Skinnies" (Somalis) than in Mogadishu.
(OK, my brother does exaggerate a bit in non-scientific matters)
34 posted on 06/15/2008 3:17:18 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yes I am.
In truth I’m much more hard core then that.
Rome failed not because they lost any military campaign or paid too much in taxes.

Rome failed when they quit being Romans.

Assimilation or deportation. There is nothing else to talk about. There can be no other solution. If non assimilating immigrants are allowed to stay they alone will be the single force that destroys our American culture from within. We will call it America it would in fact become Little (insert name of turd world country here).


35 posted on 06/15/2008 3:19:05 PM PDT by duffus (Deport all Aliens, Secure the Border, Recall the Troops, Shrink the Government.)
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To: trussell

“The mother stands on her balcony and stares at my house. If I am sitting in front of the sliding patio door or standing on my balcony, she screams at me in whatever language she speaks (it’s not english).”

Got a gun? Sit on your balcony and clean it. Maybe she’ll stop screaming.


36 posted on 06/15/2008 3:24:57 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: MplsSteve

Question: which one of our enlightened lib politicos is responsible for letting these savages into the country in the first place - Clintoon?


37 posted on 06/15/2008 3:40:57 PM PDT by 43north (I did not leave the Republican Party; the Republican Party left me.)
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To: MplsSteve

From the article...

“Another key difference with Somalis is that many of them have vague hopes of returning to their country one day when the fighting stops and thus may see assimilation as less of a priority than those who intend to settle down, Sheikhosman added.”

There you have it... When they say “less of a priority” its lib-speak for “They have NO INTENTION of assimilating.”

Send them home.


38 posted on 06/15/2008 3:42:30 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: trussell

I wouldn’t take that crap. If the kid calls again making threats record it and call the cops and have him put up on terrorism charges. I’d also clean my shotgun on the patio, every weekend. Seriously... if you don’t push back they’ll try to push you out.


39 posted on 06/15/2008 3:48:49 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: MplsSteve
What's strange is they LEAVE a worse life and try to RECREATE it here. Mind boggling.
40 posted on 06/15/2008 3:54:30 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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